greatsnake
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What are the signs that the person, which you are dating suffers from victim mentality? and can it be used to control or manipulate the other person?
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I got you.
- Complains all the time
- Places blame on everyone else
- Dwells on the past
- Focuses on negatives
- Can't take a compliment
- General self-loathing
- Everything is external/no self-awareness
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Thanks Alpha. I'm having the experience where the chick tells me that every guy she dates leaves her/get married after, that people bail on her....
There's probably a very good reason all her Exes left her behind them. Or, she has a bad habit of choosing the wrong men to be with.
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Responsible people tend to live in the present moment with one healthy eye on the future. They diligently work on
their circle of influence i.e. they concentrate on what's in their control.
Contrast that with victims who dwell in the past and constantly complain about circumstances that are beyond their control. i.e. they concentrate on things that are outside their circle of influence. Victims usually have several ready made excuses as to why their life is currently stuck and for their general unhappiness (Parents fault, they weren't given a pony as a kid, teachers were mean, grew up in the wrong neighborhood in the wrong town in the wrong time.
their circle of influence i.e. they concentrate on what's in their control.
Contrast that with victims who dwell in the past and constantly complain about circumstances that are beyond their control. i.e. they concentrate on things that are outside their circle of influence. Victims usually have several ready made excuses as to why their life is currently stuck and for their general unhappiness (Parents fault, they weren't given a pony as a kid, teachers were mean, grew up in the wrong neighborhood in the wrong town in the wrong time.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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Yeah, that's what I'm beginning to think. But, wouldn't someone want to put their best foot forward? as opposed to mentioning it early in the dating process?
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I agree.
Women usually tell you what their deal is if you listen. Yours just gave you a big clue.
Not if she wants to remain a victim. Don't let her drag you into her frame.
The good old Doc said something like "Women don't lie and men don't listen"
Women reveal themselves if we would only learn the art of active listening. Let her open up and reveal herself. Tease her
and ball bust her in a playful manner on what she's saying. You'll find out if she has a sense of humor or is a stuck up cow.
Want to put her best foot forward? You know, I don't know how many times that I heard a woman mention that she was
stubborn and saying with pride as if it was a positive quality. Now is that a lack of awareness or what.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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damn, i'm thinking that she may have some glaring issues like abandonment. I do remember her mentioning that she had a dream that I had run off on her lol
Yes, be aware of any red flags you see. If she has some type of personality problem, they will show up along the way. Until then proceed as usual.
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Bro be careful. Once a girl starts telling you this, she will look at you as her emotional tampon/therapist.
You should just try to have alot of fun and sex with her so she forgets about "every guy she dates."
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lol what signs of personality problems should i look after?
ahah already having all the fun and sex. It's just interesting to check out her character.
ahah already having all the fun and sex. It's just interesting to check out her character.
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You have a thread regarding this http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/toxic-girls-what-are-the-red-flags.239129/
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
phil2015
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My recent ex had this issue.....She said all the guys she had serious relationships with, all settled, got married, had children after they left her.....
She was convinced one day that 'everything would go wrong' or that I would cheat on her. A very bad mindset to start and maintain a relationship
wifehunter
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- Failure to take criticism
- Uptight sense of humor
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Anyone who fails to take criticism is, in my eyes, a person I can hardly trust.
phil2015
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One of the last things mine say was 'I appear to be doing better without her'
Still pondering the exact meaning, but I think its as broad as it is long
wifehunter
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The victim mentality... It's also a sign of NPD and attention wh0r3ing.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.