Pierce Manhammer
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OP, can I ask your age and hers?
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Sure im 33 she’s 27 @Pierce ManhammerOP, can I ask your age and hers?
Yet, you followed the example of The Intersectionalist-leaning freshgirl... Cautioned by several sane, intelligent people not to get blackout drunk at frat parties, she went ahead and did so anywayEveryone here advised me to move on after telling her I wanted to try things seriousley and her declining that she didn't have confidence that would work...
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Thanks I’m going to think about it@Gambino -
I wouldn't be so hard headed over the contacting her concern. If she is truly interested then it won't matter. The girls you have to play games with to attract/re-attract aren't worth it anyways.
I'd take my time and be patient. Make sure this is what you want. A LTR will likely be the only card on the table in this situation. If you start seeing her again, I would be skeptical and just take it day by day.
I've had these deals go 2 ways.
A. Start seeing each other again and its only about sex & friendship. Eventually she says no more and/or you find some other girl.
B. You make an effort to resolve the problems that created the divide, yet things never get back to how they were before and the relationship comes to an end again.
Sometimes a guy has to ask himself..........If I was banging some other girl that was hot, sweet, submissive, fuhked, like a p0rnstar, etc would I be interested in seeing my exgf still? If you haven't banged anything else since her and you still miss her somewhat, is this just horniness and old emotions talking or is this something pure and deep?
I wish it wasn't true, but its almost always best to move on and find somebody new. But I wouldn't know this if I'd of never went back to several exes and figured this out. ;-) So there is value to be had from such things. Never hurts to try something again so you know for sure.
All we can do is better realize what you want and need, and learn from our past.
Have to agree, again. @Glassguy it’s just the truth an high interested woman will chaseDid I miss the part that she reached out and started chasing him? Because outside of that, it's la la land.