Pierce Manhammer
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OP, can I ask your age and hers?
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Sure im 33 she’s 27 @Pierce ManhammerOP, can I ask your age and hers?
Yet, you followed the example of The Intersectionalist-leaning freshgirl... Cautioned by several sane, intelligent people not to get blackout drunk at frat parties, she went ahead and did so anywayEveryone here advised me to move on after telling her I wanted to try things seriousley and her declining that she didn't have confidence that would work...
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Thanks I’m going to think about it@Gambino -
I wouldn't be so hard headed over the contacting her concern. If she is truly interested then it won't matter. The girls you have to play games with to attract/re-attract aren't worth it anyways.
I'd take my time and be patient. Make sure this is what you want. A LTR will likely be the only card on the table in this situation. If you start seeing her again, I would be skeptical and just take it day by day.
I've had these deals go 2 ways.
A. Start seeing each other again and its only about sex & friendship. Eventually she says no more and/or you find some other girl.
B. You make an effort to resolve the problems that created the divide, yet things never get back to how they were before and the relationship comes to an end again.
Sometimes a guy has to ask himself..........If I was banging some other girl that was hot, sweet, submissive, fuhked, like a p0rnstar, etc would I be interested in seeing my exgf still? If you haven't banged anything else since her and you still miss her somewhat, is this just horniness and old emotions talking or is this something pure and deep?
I wish it wasn't true, but its almost always best to move on and find somebody new. But I wouldn't know this if I'd of never went back to several exes and figured this out. ;-) So there is value to be had from such things. Never hurts to try something again so you know for sure.
All we can do is better realize what you want and need, and learn from our past.
Have to agree, again. @Glassguy it’s just the truth an high interested woman will chaseDid I miss the part that she reached out and started chasing him? Because outside of that, it's la la land.