"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Update - hanging out one-on-one tonight with woman from “woman’s morality and cheating” thread

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Don't encourage him to become an adulter.
You apply morality to this? Women almost always help women get laid. There are exceptions but as a whole, expect it and a very sorority type secrecy between them. They do not live by men’s moral codes. Lol

Ever watch how women call women sluts? What if they are all right? What if they already knew that was the game and 98% of the men are newcomers to it?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm also a woman
 

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You apply morality to this? Women almost always help women get laid. There are exceptions but as a whole, expect it and a very sorority type secrecy between them. They do not live by men’s moral codes. Lol

Ever watch how women call women sluts? What if they are all right? What if they already knew that was the game and 98% of the men are newcomers to it?
Just because others may not have morals, doesn't mean you have to follow the herd. So no, I'd not (knowingly) fvck a married lady. I would certainly not fvck a pregnant lady with another man's seed already planted. But hey, if that's cool with you, go for it. Plenty of lays over at Tinder, POF and your local dive bar.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Some ppl have moral and others dont
Preaching morals to them is a waste of time and wont change a thing.

Better let ppl with no morals get together than them ****ing up good ppl.
 
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You apply morality to this? Women almost always help women get laid. There are exceptions but as a whole, expect it and a very sorority type secrecy between them. They do not live by men’s moral codes. Lol

Ever watch how women call women sluts? What if they are all right? What if they already knew that was the game and 98% of the men are newcomers to it?
OP is going to sleep with a pregnant married woman. She’s more at fault here for initiating this of course, but where is the male moral code in his intentions?

Let’s be real. There are lots of men and women who have don’t have moral codes. I’m not saying OP is one of them. He’s a guy taking someone up on an opportunity to get laid. He’s thinking with his penis, like 99.9 percent of men and 99.9 percent of men aren’t bad people.

But let’s not claim that men are high and mighty heroes who are being manipulated by evil women lol. There are threads here on how to use women for sex, how to cheat, how to lead them on etc etc. Yes some women do crappy things to try to control men, guess what, some men do the same to women. That’s why screening and disqualifying crappy people is key, rather than going on about some ideal that doesn’t exist nor will exit in today’s society.

Maybe this guy gets laid by a hot pregnant woman and likes it. Maybe he regrets it, but he’s going to do it, it seems, which is his choice and he’s old enough to be accountable to that choice whatever the outcome.
 

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Just because others may not have morals, doesn't mean you have to follow the herd. So no, I'd not (knowingly) fvck a married lady. I would certainly not fvck a pregnant lady with another man's seed already planted. But hey, if that's cool with you, go for it. Plenty of lays over at Tinder, POF and your local dive bar.
That was not a slam. I could have written it better. There was a lesson in there for some men. Please excuse.
Of course I advise a man to stick to his codes. As long as they are his and not some other source.
 

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OP is going to sleep with a pregnant married woman. She’s more at fault here for initiating this of course, but where is the male moral code in his intentions?

Let’s be real. There are lots of men and women who have don’t have moral codes. I’m not saying OP is one of them. He’s a guy taking someone up on an opportunity to get laid. He’s thinking with his penis, like 99.9 percent of men and 99.9 percent of men aren’t bad people.

But let’s not claim that men are high and mighty heroes who are being manipulated by evil women lol. There are threads here on how to use women for sex, how to cheat, how to lead them on etc etc. Yes some women do crappy things to try to control men, guess what, some men do the same to women. That’s why screening and disqualifying crappy people is key, rather than going on about some ideal that doesn’t exist nor will exit in today’s society.

Maybe this guy gets laid by a hot pregnant woman and likes it. Maybe he regrets it, but he’s going to do it, it seems, which is his choice and he’s old enough to be accountable to that choice whatever the outcome.
I would assume you are a woman too.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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There are some pretty heavy threads with no female input and yet this one catches the attention of three?
One of these things is not like the others.

I wonder what is at stake here?
 

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There are some pretty heavy threads with no female input and yet this one catches the attention of three?
One of these things is not like the others.

I wonder what is at stake here?

They must sense my alphaness and covertly
want to fvck me.
 

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I've said it before and @Atom Smasher has questioned it, my investment in any one of you is NILL.

You want to shag a preggo married woman and want to know the IOIs about that, I will answer, no judgement here, it's your life.

As others have said, be wary of potential reprecussions.

Be sure to LIVE
 
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I would assume you are a woman too.
Yes I am, but you didn’t answer my question. Where is the male moral code in sleeping with a married pregnant woman?
The OP is not claiming to have high morals, and admits he just wants to sleep with a hot chick. That doesn’t make him a low person but I don’t see where the moral code is here. You are claiming that men have these moral codes, in the context of a thread about a man who is planning to sleep with a pregnant married woman, so.... again, how is this moral code? Or do you define moral code as whatever makes someone feel good? Maybe we have different definitions of the word moral? I don’t know. Some examples would be helpful.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Yes I am, but you didn’t answer my question. Where is the male moral code in sleeping with a married pregnant woman?
The OP is not claiming to have high morals, and admits he just wants to sleep with a hot chick. That doesn’t make him a low person but I don’t see where the moral code is here. You are claiming that men have these moral codes, in the context of a thread about a man who is planning to sleep with a pregnant married woman, so.... again, how is this moral code? Or do you define moral code as whatever makes someone feel good? Maybe we have different definitions of the word moral? I don’t know. Some examples would be helpful.
This is pretty simple actually. Moral codes come from perception. Women never fail to mention men as dogs. This is plain to see and doesn’t require any sense of intelligence.

From the average woman’s viewpoint, from her teenage years up until her present day, she is attracted to and sleeps with cads and cods.

So this is her fundamental experience. Naturally these guys don’t care about her or cheat on her or many other variations of this. This is a skewed vision of men. She is only talking about the men she has been attracted to. Rightly so.

Most men (the vast majority) are raised outside of that version of society. Their heads are filled with garbage and unworkable codes that submit him to a different version of sex game that is false. He’s a goody two shoes prancing along in an imaginary world of honor, codes and some knightly version of life.
Women are not encumbered with such nonsense. The deadbeat dad is crammed down his throat yet if a woman leaves him, he should have been a better husband and listened to her or followed her feelings and somehow glowed it right. She had “reasons” for leaving him that are socially valid.

I knew a hard working man who’s wife cheated on him. At first the women said they understood. A month or so later, he brought it up again. He was instantly **** down. The “alpha” woman there, a sex friend of mine, turned to him and said, “Oh get over it Tom. That was a month ago. Grow up.”

I was standing right there when she told him that. I looked around and all the other women had faces of disgust. He left.

Now in girl world, this is normal. The vast majority of men do not think that way. They have moral codes and interpretations and teachings from mommy and society that do not serve him.

When in fact, completely acceptable reason by woman code, ..she wanted to feel alive again. That’s woman speak for new sex partners and yummy girl feelings on the hunt.

It is impossible for you to understand the width and depth of this. You were never designed to think that way. Basically what all three girls are saying is that every time one of their girlfriends or even her, when they cheated on a boyfriend or husband...was that it was justifiable and they didn’t narc on their friends. He should have been a better man and kept her happy. That is a woman’s social moral code. If it wasn’t their moral code things would play out different.

The men who cheated and were mean were well less than 10% of men. We have a huge slice of observable conduct. You only have a tiny slice. Very tiny. You already know most men are outside sex qualifications so they aren’t even in the equation. So the comments are a mute discussion.

I know this is true because I asked some very well put together women. Many women. Yes, yes I know. Not all women are like that.
 
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They must sense my alphaness and covertly
want to fvck me.
You mean they're jealous that a married woman who is also pregnant gets attention from men while they're single and currently not pregnant are reduced to being online on a men's forum for some attention.

Be magnanimous and show some pity.
 
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This is pretty simple actually. Moral codes come from perception. Women never fail to mention men as dogs. This is plain to see and doesn’t require any sense of intelligence.

From the average woman’s viewpoint, from her teenage years up until her present day, she is attracted to and sleeps with cads and cods.

So this is her fundamental experience. Naturally these guys don’t care about her or cheat on her or many other variations of this. This is a skewed vision of men. She is only talking about the men she has been attracted to. Rightly so.

Most men (the vast majority) are raised outside of that version of society. Their heads are filled with garbage and unworkable codes that submit him to a different version of sex game that is false. He’s a goody two shoes prancing along in an imaginary world of honor, codes and some knightly version of life.
Women are not encumbered with such nonsense. The deadbeat dad is crammed down his throat yet if a woman leaves him, he should have been a better husband and listened to her or followed her feelings and somehow glowed it right. She had “reasons” for leaving him that are socially valid.

I knew a hard working man who’s wife cheated on him. At first the women said they understood. A month or so later, he brought it up again. He was instantly **** down. The “alpha” woman there, a sex friend of mine, turned to him and said, “Oh get over it Tom. That was a month ago. Grow up.”

I was standing right there when she told him that. I looked around and all the other women had faces of disgust. He left.

Now in girl world, this is normal. The vast majority of men do not think that way. They have moral codes and interpretations and teachings from mommy and society that do not serve him.

When in fact, completely acceptable reason by woman code, ..she wanted to feel alive again. That’s woman speak for new sex partners and yummy girl feelings on the hunt.

It is impossible for you to understand the width and depth of this. You were never designed to think that way. Basically what all three girls are saying is that every time one of their girlfriends or even her, when they cheated on a boyfriend or husband...was that it was justifiable and they didn’t narc on their friends. He should have been a better man and kept her happy. That is a woman’s social moral code. If it wasn’t their moral code things would play out different.

The men who cheated and were mean were well less than 10% of men. We have a huge slice of observable conduct. You only have a tiny slice. Very tiny. You already know most men are outside sex qualifications so they aren’t even in the equation. So the comments are a mute discussion.

I know this is true because I asked some very well put together women. Many women. Yes, yes I know. Not all women are like that.
Not sure where your 10% data comes from? Do you have a link to this research?

Yes. You are correct. Not all women think the way you are describing. My cousin cheated on her husband and the female members of her family, myself included, gave her sh*t for it. You don’t tear down a good man and he is a good man. He wouldn’t take her back, rightfully so.

But, I get the impression you have a low view of women for reasons that make sense to you, and are trying to figure out stuff in a broader sense in the form of posting threads. I hope you find what you are looking for.
 

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But, I get the impression you have a low view of women for reasons that make sense to you, and are trying to figure out stuff in a broader sense in the form of posting threads. I hope you find what you are looking for.
Not only false but of course the standard feminine commentary.
I find women fun, caring and adorably enduring. They have their own ways that are the exact opposite of mine. Maybe one puppy in 50 will I find cute. All puppies are cute to a woman. Even ugly ones.

None of this takes away from the observable truth. So unless you ratted on all your girlfriends and heavily warned them against cheating on a boyfriend or husband, yes all women are like that. I was being facetious. It doesn’t mean the rare woman will do differently, it just means if you bet on it. You might as well hand over your cash.

The important part is the education of men. Unless of course you are guaranteeing I am wrong and it’s all false.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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