@Pedrito0906
What we're dealing with is self-important nattys who think they're superior for not "cheating". As if juicing is akin to popeye eating a can of spinach. Not knowing (because they haven't done it themselves) is that one can juice to the moon, and still not improve if the other pillars (diet, training, recovery) are not in place and having GENETICS... Juicing only allows one to keep making newbie like gains. One still has to go just as hard as the nattys.....
edit: Changed nutrition to recovery