"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Tom Leykis, Tariq Nasheed

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These are some guys i listen to to get some knowledge and hear their ideology are there any other guys like this on youtube or that have podcasts and other things for free
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I actually think player supreme's podcasts are good. However, Leykis and Tariq Nasheed are much funnier. Daygame.com has a podcast thats passable too if you are into daygame
 

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Tom and Tariq are the best of the best

Tariq was the guy who started pua, before it was called pua, and that is a true fact. Tariq just called it macking.

if you not listening to tom and Tariq on podcast or youtube you messing out on a lot of true information about women.
 

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Bill Burr has a regular podast as well as lots of yoootooobes
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Bill Burr? The comedian? I listen to him on pandora but only his comedy clips
 

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TDH said:
These are some guys i listen to to get some knowledge and hear their ideology are there any other guys like this on youtube or that have podcasts and other things for free

For simple common sense answer articles to frequently asked questions about chicks, check out GirlsChase. (There's a lot of good articles and answers on the main site and other areas of it for free.)

http://www.girlschase.com/

For common sense advice on Youtube check out "Arkady39" (Practical Happiness.com).

http://www.youtube.com/user/arkady39


Those are the only two I'd bother with.

Tom Lykis I take with a grain of salt. As for the poster who mentioned PS. Player Supreme is the poor man's bootleg version of Tariq Nasheed.

Tariq Nasheed is good from what I've seen.
 

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Fatal Jay said:
Tariq was the guy who started pua, before it was called pua, and that is a true fact. Tariq just called it macking.
Please cite your sources. My source tells me his book was published in 2000, which would put him at least 6 years behind the speed-seduction guy.. forget his name.. and 4 years after I started posting on ASF about seduction.
 

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the art of mackin came out in 1999, no one was even on that pua $hit back then, so don't act like they was dude

the samething pua guys was saying about cold approaches etc. Tariq been touched on that stuff. A lot of that pua stuff came from dudes who use to be hardcore nerds, Tariq was on some pimping prostitues type game. Teaching guys to get money from women. Pua teach you how to potentially get laid and Tariq teach you to go far beyond just a lay, he teach to get the full benefits out of a woman not only her body but her mind.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Zarky said:
Please cite your sources. My source tells me his book was published in 2000, which would put him at least 6 years behind the speed-seduction guy.. forget his name.. and 4 years after I started posting on ASF about seduction.
Speed seduction was nothing more than a novelty - it's outdated now (i doubt anybody on this board uses it). Practical consistencies like negs, pre-selection and wingwomen didn't come about until much later
 

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Speed seduction was nothing more than a novelty - it's outdated now (i doubt anybody on this board uses it). Practical consistencies like negs, pre-selection and wingwomen didn't come about until much later
LOL how long have you been doing this, and how old are you? I use embedded commands all the time. Please, I've been in the "seduction community" since late 1996. If you don't have at least that much experience then don't go around spouting your little opinions about what's "outdated" or what's being used by people who have been doing this ten times longer than yourself, ok? :)

I was around when Mystery was shoving tape recorders down his pants to go out and record himself (unsuccessfully) hitting on chicks.

Don't talk as if you know something when you clearly don't.
 

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I checked out bill burr some good stuff although he rambles about all topics
 

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Have you ever seen Tom Lykis? Just google his name. I used to listen to him on the radio every day in LA, while he makes some ok points, the majority is garbage that is meant to shock the audience in hopes of creating more viewers and thus better ratings. Btw he has been divorced something absurd like 7 or 8 times (some pimp he is...), most of what he talks about is hatred toward women and how you should never trust em, etc.
 

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He divorced three times, nothing makes you better then trial and error.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I dig Patrice O'neal.

He did a radio show which was all about women called "The Black Phillip Show".

I find Tariq's radio show is a bit too slow and drawn out, he keeps advertising paraphernalia, so I prefer Patrice O'neal.

Tom Leykis is ok I guess, but I agree with NN, take it with a grain of salt.
 
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