"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Tips for cashiers, waitresses, etc?

eikk008822

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Hey guys, what are some quick conversation starters you can use on women you see that are cashiers, waitresses etc.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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TheCWord

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Why do you need a conversation starter? They're paid to talk to you.
 

eikk008822

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Let me rephrase that, how do you quickly generate attraction with cashiers and waitresses?
 

plate's_empty

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I started a thread about this before. Didn't get any responses :cry: Not necessarily about waitresses but about cashiers, receptionists. Every day people you'd run into while out and about doing your normal daily activities.

Hot Receptionist: "Hi, how are you today?"
Boring nobody: "Good, how are you?
Hot Receptionist: "Good, thanks."
Boring nobody: (nothing)


I was looking for a response to "Hi, how are you today?" Considering if you're out, you can hear it up to ten times in a day.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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BigSmooth

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Has it really gotten to this point where men have no idea what to say to women who are PAID to talk to you?

Are we THAT socially inept now?

Geez. It's like people who look for advice on how to start up conversations at a business ****tail event or something.

This is ridiculous...
 

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Why criticize? The guy just wants some help. I manage a lot of cashiers and can tell you to simply be as natural as possible. Give em what you got man. They work there, they are not running away anywhere. They will either be into or not. Slightly more direct considering your time is short though.
 

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If you have trouble keeping a conversation going with women who are paid to BS with you, then I can't help you.

if you want tips on picking them up, though? Remember that they're the help. You can't hit on them in the same way, and I'd lean toward not hitting on them at all.

however, there are exceptions to this rule. Talk to them as if they're women that you're not sexually interested in and see where that leads you.
 

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BigSmooth said:
Has it really gotten to this point where men have no idea what to say to women who are PAID to talk to you?

Are we THAT socially inept now?

Geez. It's like people who look for advice on how to start up conversations at a business ****tail event or something.

This is ridiculous...
That's the whole point. They're being PAID to talk to you, instead of WANTING to talk to you.

He was asking advice on how to generate attraction from these quick interactions. That's all dude. Relax.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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BigSmooth

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plate's_empty said:
That's the whole point. They're being PAID to talk to you, instead of WANTING to talk to you.

He was asking advice on how to generate attraction from these quick interactions. That's all dude. Relax.
I am relaxed. I'm just dumbfounded that we are now treating these girls like they're from a different planet.

From my experience, if you can generally get girls to be attracted to you normally, you can get waitresses, cashiers, hostesses, and anyone else that is paid to talk to you be ATTRACTED to you.

It's really not that hard. There's too much over-analyzing going on over here.

I've picked up my fair share of waitresses before. The best thing to do from what I've gathered is be charming and relatable. Being a d0uche does not work very well. The easier you make her life on the job, the more she will notice you. Oh, and looks do play a bigger part here because your window of opportunity is definitely smaller so the way you are judged is a bit more materialistic.


Just be charming people. Be well-liked. Be well-dressed. That's all there is to it.


~ BSmooth
 
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