"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Tinder: Experiences and affect on value

fri2oct15

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2 part question if any of you have an insight.

Looking at trying tinder to get a couple of fwbs, had one for a couple of weeks but we fell out so she gone.

Feel like when I know I'm getting it regularly, my nightgame is smoother. (Abundance?). And to be honest, right now it just feels rusty as anything.

So, question is this: I have a reputation as a bit of a player. Rightly or wrongly. If my social circle and ex-girls/fwbs see me on Tinder, will my value drop as it may come across as desperate.

Theres a couple of ex-girls/fwbs that I want to see in the future as plates, so don't wanna burn those oppurtunities.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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If they see you on Tinder they might think " since this guy is a player , then why is he on online dating?" Most of people rely on OLD because they can't find any chicks in their area or they have no time to socialize or they are too afraid to approach females.

Usually the last is more common.
 

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If they see you on Tinder they might think " since this guy is a player , then why is he on online dating?" Most of people rely on OLD because they can't find any chicks in their area or they have no time to socialize or they are too afraid to approach females.

Usually the last is more common.
Unfortunately I think you're right.
 

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What? If they see you on tinder, they are on tinder as well! In your face (theirs)!

Online dating isn't for chumps anymore these days. It's totally fine if your picture is hot. They may even start fantasizing about you.
 

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What? If they see you on tinder, they are on tinder as well! In your face (theirs)!

Online dating isn't for chumps anymore these days. It's totally fine if your picture is hot. They may even start fantasizing about you.
How many people do you know that usually judge themselves first and later the others? None
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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parkthebus

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If you look like someone they'd like to ****, it'll probably just give em competition anxiety.
 

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Yeah. Still I would do it personally. The negative effect would definitely be there if you look like an AFC on the pic so I see your point.
 

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If they see you on Tinder they might think " since this guy is a player , then why is he on online dating?" Most of people rely on OLD because they can't find any chicks in their area or they have no time to socialize or they are too afraid to approach females.

Usually the last is more common.
Or they just like getting easy lays, lol
 

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Bit of a divide here haha.

Gut feeling is it says "can't get girls irl" even if that's not true.

Go with the gut I guess.
 

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Who. Fvcking. Cares.

Women worry about their "rep" and being a "slut". Not guys.

Do what you want OP. Stop thinking like a woman.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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lol, tell me your success rate in OLD. I do know mine,0% xD
Never tried tinder..fvcked about 10 women from OLD...
 
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