"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Tinder: Experiences and affect on value

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2 part question if any of you have an insight.

Looking at trying tinder to get a couple of fwbs, had one for a couple of weeks but we fell out so she gone.

Feel like when I know I'm getting it regularly, my nightgame is smoother. (Abundance?). And to be honest, right now it just feels rusty as anything.

So, question is this: I have a reputation as a bit of a player. Rightly or wrongly. If my social circle and ex-girls/fwbs see me on Tinder, will my value drop as it may come across as desperate.

Theres a couple of ex-girls/fwbs that I want to see in the future as plates, so don't wanna burn those oppurtunities.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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If they see you on Tinder they might think " since this guy is a player , then why is he on online dating?" Most of people rely on OLD because they can't find any chicks in their area or they have no time to socialize or they are too afraid to approach females.

Usually the last is more common.
 
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NSX-R said:
If they see you on Tinder they might think " since this guy is a player , then why is he on online dating?" Most of people rely on OLD because they can't find any chicks in their area or they have no time to socialize or they are too afraid to approach females.

Usually the last is more common.
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Unfortunately I think you're right.
 
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What? If they see you on tinder, they are on tinder as well! In your face (theirs)!

Online dating isn't for chumps anymore these days. It's totally fine if your picture is hot. They may even start fantasizing about you.
 
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Huffman said:
What? If they see you on tinder, they are on tinder as well! In your face (theirs)!

Online dating isn't for chumps anymore these days. It's totally fine if your picture is hot. They may even start fantasizing about you.
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How many people do you know that usually judge themselves first and later the others? None
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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If you look like someone they'd like to ****, it'll probably just give em competition anxiety.
 
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Yeah. Still I would do it personally. The negative effect would definitely be there if you look like an AFC on the pic so I see your point.
 
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NSX-R said:
If they see you on Tinder they might think " since this guy is a player , then why is he on online dating?" Most of people rely on OLD because they can't find any chicks in their area or they have no time to socialize or they are too afraid to approach females.

Usually the last is more common.
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Or they just like getting easy lays, lol
 
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Bit of a divide here haha.

Gut feeling is it says "can't get girls irl" even if that's not true.

Go with the gut I guess.
 
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Who. Fvcking. Cares.

Women worry about their "rep" and being a "slut". Not guys.

Do what you want OP. Stop thinking like a woman.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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lol, tell me your success rate in OLD. I do know mine,0% xD
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Never tried tinder..fvcked about 10 women from OLD...
 
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