"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Tinder: Experiences and affect on value

fri2oct15

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2 part question if any of you have an insight.

Looking at trying tinder to get a couple of fwbs, had one for a couple of weeks but we fell out so she gone.

Feel like when I know I'm getting it regularly, my nightgame is smoother. (Abundance?). And to be honest, right now it just feels rusty as anything.

So, question is this: I have a reputation as a bit of a player. Rightly or wrongly. If my social circle and ex-girls/fwbs see me on Tinder, will my value drop as it may come across as desperate.

Theres a couple of ex-girls/fwbs that I want to see in the future as plates, so don't wanna burn those oppurtunities.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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NSX-R

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If they see you on Tinder they might think " since this guy is a player , then why is he on online dating?" Most of people rely on OLD because they can't find any chicks in their area or they have no time to socialize or they are too afraid to approach females.

Usually the last is more common.
 

fri2oct15

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If they see you on Tinder they might think " since this guy is a player , then why is he on online dating?" Most of people rely on OLD because they can't find any chicks in their area or they have no time to socialize or they are too afraid to approach females.

Usually the last is more common.
Unfortunately I think you're right.
 

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What? If they see you on tinder, they are on tinder as well! In your face (theirs)!

Online dating isn't for chumps anymore these days. It's totally fine if your picture is hot. They may even start fantasizing about you.
 

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What? If they see you on tinder, they are on tinder as well! In your face (theirs)!

Online dating isn't for chumps anymore these days. It's totally fine if your picture is hot. They may even start fantasizing about you.
How many people do you know that usually judge themselves first and later the others? None
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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parkthebus

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If you look like someone they'd like to ****, it'll probably just give em competition anxiety.
 

Huffman

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Yeah. Still I would do it personally. The negative effect would definitely be there if you look like an AFC on the pic so I see your point.
 

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If they see you on Tinder they might think " since this guy is a player , then why is he on online dating?" Most of people rely on OLD because they can't find any chicks in their area or they have no time to socialize or they are too afraid to approach females.

Usually the last is more common.
Or they just like getting easy lays, lol
 

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Bit of a divide here haha.

Gut feeling is it says "can't get girls irl" even if that's not true.

Go with the gut I guess.
 

marmel75

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Who. Fvcking. Cares.

Women worry about their "rep" and being a "slut". Not guys.

Do what you want OP. Stop thinking like a woman.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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marmel75

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lol, tell me your success rate in OLD. I do know mine,0% xD
Never tried tinder..fvcked about 10 women from OLD...
 
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