"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Spaz, I ain't gonna say the strategem is wrong. Just that it makes no sense to me. If it's good for this broad, why not all the rest and before you know it, you've got a trail of disrespectful broads you're probably sharing with other fvckers. Wouldn't full red pill compliance mean the last thing you want is a trail of disrespectful broads you're probably sharing with other fvckers?
Ohrein stratagem is abt pulling her back into a man's frame - reacquiring the balance of power.

He essentially expanded on my 1st post which I highlighted there's benefits to be had by dumping/dismissing her 1st but I did say it's fleeting at best and plays with a woman's emotions.

Fleeting because a man has to constantly use the push/pull strategy and it's tiring...

Best is always pulling a women into ur sphere of influence (frame), she understanding it and I cannot stress enough that a man must have admirable qualities which is never stagnant, always growing in strength as he ages.

To sustain a women's love, she must admire her man and from there gains her respect. That's what it takes to have a sustainable happy relationship.

I don't recommend Ohrien's stratagem to OP but to some highly dismissive men who wants to string women along, that's how it's done.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The list of threads he created show this has been going on a long time...I think its basically running its course at this point
 

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Sometime when your too close to the problem your are blind to it or dont want to see it

People are telling you what to do, i know its not what you want but on the long run you will be happier for it
 

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Ohrein stratagem is abt pulling her back into a man's frame - reacquiring the balance of power.

He essentially expanded on my 1st post which I highlighted there's benefits to be had by dumping/dismissing her 1st but I did say it's fleeting at best and plays with a woman's emotions.

Fleeting because a man has to constantly use the push/pull strategy and it's tiring...

Best is always pulling a women into ur sphere of influence (frame), she understanding it and I cannot stress enough that a man must have admirable qualities which is never stagnant, always growing in strength as he ages.

To sustain a women's love, she must admire her man and from there gains her respect. That's what it takes to have a sustainable happy relationship.

I don't recommend Ohrien's stratagem to OP but to some highly dismissive men who wants to string women along, that's how it's done.
Agree with all of that and yes, it's very tiring.
 

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It's SO easy to judge what you write and silently scream at my computer screen "RUN" and #nextset. But then I recall, I've been there. It's not so easy letting go.

From my perspective, she's not respecting or valuing you, and you should start to back off. At the very most, plate her. If you pull away and she confronts you about it, tell her everything you've told us n your original post. If she doesnt value the feedback and feel it worthy to work on treating you better (if she dismisses what you say) then it's time to realize she doesnt want to LOVE you, and go your separate ways
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Something to be said about the disrespect YOU allow in your life which trickles down much further than you can imagine, into your other relations, your self esteem, your core, and most importantly your mental paradigms.

Your mental paradigms are structured in a very specific way that guide you and open up the doors to infinite possibilities of growth. When someone disrespects you and you allow it, you are stultifying those paradigms and collapsing all the doors to the infinite.

The greatest damage one can do upon oneself is permitting disrespect into one’s sphere and becoming the victim.
 

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OP sounds like you lost frame. Sounds like she´s more invested in the ltr than you.

Next time she disrepects you, you end things on the spot.
 

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Bad advice when emotionally compromised, worse because it isn't legit interest just playing on fear of loss. She is doing harem maintenance and you think you've somehow rekindled interest.
I don't disagree, but it's the best course of action and more importantly it's better for him.
 
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