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He claims ADHD syndrome.

I believe its more to aspergers.

Intellectuals displays the same tendencies BUT it is not the same, just slower then normal people when it comes to social nuances and hence the tag nerdy.

Those can be cultivated by going out as you suggested, learning through the hard way.

Aspergers on the other hand is something special, that would need a more personal touch, someone to hold his hand and whisper to his ear on the proper responses one makes in social interactions.
@SeekerOfTheWay, he has Aspergers. Help the dude out. He needs a wing lady. Since you are in the same town, help him out. ;'p
 

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He claims ADHD syndrome.

I believe its more to aspergers.

Intellectuals displays the same tendencies BUT it is not the same, just slower then normal people when it comes to social nuances and hence the tag nerdy.

Those can be cultivated by going out as you suggested, learning through the hard way.

Aspergers on the other hand is something special, that would need a more personal touch, someone to hold his hand and whisper to his ear on the proper responses one makes in social interactions.
ADHD crap can be fixed with healthy eating and exercise. Both help regulate the chemicals in one's brain. I don't know much about Aspergers, so I cannot comment. They are supposed to be highly smart at math, but are mostly anti-social becuase they are not good around people. It's a shame the tricks God plays on some people.
 

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No, lol I don't have that. The single groups here that are public it seemed guys outnumbered girls and the girls were not that high of HB like they're on match.
The way you are right now, with ur obsession to go on dates, in every nook and cranny you'd be met by rejection, its going to take a toll on you in the long run.

That's why I told you to instead of being on OLD and going out with trash, focus internally 1st.

Maybe try going out with a bunch of men 1st, we men are more forgiving and loyal, we'd stick around and protect those we feel are part of our group.

Let those men mentor you with women, sure they might poke fun at you in the beginning, that's men, but they'll change tact later on after you're learned to bond with males 1st.

Men has an incredible or enduring capacity to empathise, that's why all the great philosophers are men, use it, men likes a man like you who never gives up even when you fail at every conner.
 

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ADHD crap can be fixed with healthy eating and exercise. Both help regulate the chemicals in one's brain. I don't know much about Aspergers, so I cannot comment. They are supposed to be highly smart at math, but are mostly anti-social becuase they are not good around people. It's a shame the tricks God plays on some people.
I'm TERRIBLE at math. Bad. If I was good at it I'd have a STEM degree instead of a business degree.
 

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The way you are right now, with ur obsession to go on dates, in every nook and cranny you'd be met by rejection, its going to take a toll on you in the long run.

That's why I told you to instead of being on OLD and going out with trash, focus internally 1st.

Maybe try going out with a bunch of men 1st, we men are more forgiving and loyal, we'd stick around and protect those we feel are part of our group.

Let those men mentor you with women, sure they might poke fun at you in the beginning, that's men, but they'll change tact later on after you're learned to bond with males 1st.

Men has an incredible or enduring capacity to empathise, that's why all the great philosophers are men, use it, men likes a man like you who never gives up even when you fail at every conner.
When you mean by OLD trash you mean personality and mentally right? There are a few real HB 8 and 9 profiles on there though. I mean I actually got dates with them granted very hot looking but trashy mentally.

Are you saying many of them on OLD are trashy because their looks can't override their baggage and defects? Why can't their defects be repaired?
 

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The way you are right now, with ur obsession to go on dates, in every nook and cranny you'd be met by rejection, its going to take a toll on you in the long run.

That's why I told you to instead of being on OLD and going out with trash, focus internally 1st.

Maybe try going out with a bunch of men 1st, we men are more forgiving and loyal, we'd stick around and protect those we feel are part of our group.

Let those men mentor you with women, sure they might poke fun at you in the beginning, that's men, but they'll change tact later on after you're learned to bond with males 1st.

Men has an incredible or enduring capacity to empathise, that's why all the great philosophers are men, use it, men likes a man like you who never gives up even when you fail at every conner.
I wonder if @biggoal has any male friends he regularly hang with. That could be an issue. @biggoal ?
 

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i have had this smart thermostat for a month sitting here needing to be installed. i called around and finally found an electrician that works on Saturdays but he said he’s moving today so Monday would work. I said not for me as i work 8-5 and he said he will keep my number and call if he can get out here.

He called 10 minutes later and was at my place a few hours later. He was a decent looking guy, maybe a. HB6 (i can’t really judge looks lol). As soon as he came in with his tools i could see he was a bit nervous and a bit awkward but looked me up and down. not in an obvious creepy way, but when men just do it because of biology.

as i was getting him a pen, he asked what i did for a living. seemed personal but not too much and i appreciated the interest and happy to talk about my work as i love it. he started to install my thermostat as i sat with my iPad on the couch i could see him stealing glances at me in between reading the install guide. again, not in a creepy way. i love how men think we don’t see this stuff. so i looked up to meet his eyes once and smile. he got really embarrassed then or at least acted more nervous and said, “so... are single in punta gorda? there’s slim pickings here.” That made me laugh and i said “well here’s my story...” and we continued from there. told him i was married for 20 years and he said “no way, how old are you, you look really young.” hint, i look my age i think so i appreciate the comment.

We went on to discuss how he was married and the dating scene at our age (he’s my age) and laughed about dating app stories. this all was in about 30 minutes as he was finishing up. he said at one point, “i have a girlfriend and two kids..” and started to qualify himself for me. “i have this business and make good money, am stable unlike alot our age.” on and on. was a but much but i appreciate the info and the effort. i said “oh i am seeing a few guys myself but not much as it’s alot of time and effort.”

so he installed, set the settings (more than he had to) and tested the AC. he packed up and walked over to me as i was thanking him and he said, “going to hug you” and he did. not creepy long, just “friendly” but established touch right away. well played.

As he was walking out he said well let me know if you ever need anything else i would love to help. i returned with “thank you! i know you have the girlfriend and like i said i see a few but if you want to go out sometime let me know.”

Now i don’t know that i would because i don’t want to be an accessory to anyone cheating. i TRY not to anyway... But the option is there and i don’t know his situation anyway.

to me he “played” it all pretty perfectly. i am not one to give my # out or ask for dates. i have 3 guys and am busy. but he was a cutie and it’s good to have options. i admired his bravery for the cold approach and making the first moves. so he has a possibility of a date.

side note: See, it’s not that hard. i am not a “hot babe” by any means. i am a solid 5 in the face, body raises it to 6 and personality and status to a 6.5, maybe 7 until you’re dating me then my occasional craziness knocks me to a 6.5 again. haha. He was probably on my level.
I wanted to reply to this a couple adays ago, but I wasn't approved...

Also side note, theread has gone way off topic due to what I can only consider is trolling.

Anyways Guy didn't really do much but yes, he was more than likely attracted to you. Was social, good for him. Not a cold approach though by any means. Warm Approach since he kinda HAD to talk to not make it awkward but it definitely could have been worse!
 

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My personality is top notch. I am fun and smart etc. I don’t care about that. Seriously NO points for job?! I mean I won’t need to mooch, I have money for fun trips, weekends off and 25 paid days off. Doesn’t that count for anything?! I always thought it showed that I am dependable and motivated. Maybe I am projecting though because a mans career is important to me. Not that he makes a lot (that’s just a turn on) but that he has steady employment and has enough money so we can do fun things. I pay half but I will not pay for him. I am devastated with this news! Plus, I like my job and I need it to boost my HB status. :oops:
Nobody gives a shyt about your career Alley Mcbeal.

Most men would rather have a hot young up and comming than some CEO boss any day of the week.

There is not much CEO Boss lady porn out there. Intern porn on the other hand... you get my drift.
 

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My personality is top notch. I am fun and smart etc. I don’t care about that. Seriously NO points for job?! I mean I won’t need to mooch, I have money for fun trips, weekends off and 25 paid days off. Doesn’t that count for anything?! I always thought it showed that I am dependable and motivated. Maybe I am projecting though because a mans career is important to me. Not that he makes a lot (that’s just a turn on) but that he has steady employment and has enough money so we can do fun things. I pay half but I will not pay for him. I am devastated with this news! Plus, I like my job and I need it to boost my HB status. :oops:
Haha this made me laugh.

I missed this post, bad habit of mine is to read the OP and then the last 2 or 3 posts in any thread.

Let's put it this way, men who have average pulling power will most definitely be drawn exclusively to superficiality projected by women, that means how she looks, sexy or not, fvckable or not.

Then there's men who has strong pulling power, since those men can easily lure women with their own self generating aura, they tend to want more then just looks, personality plays an all encompassing important role.

A women's job doesn't do much nor means much men.

You could be a CEO but you still end up spreading ur legs to be fvcked, the dominant force will always be the man.

So for a woman to raise her HB rating, she just needs to be feminine, that includes dolling up, mannerism, body language, respectfulness and etc.

Now you're good to go.
 

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side note: See, it’s not that hard. i am not a “hot babe” by any means. i am a solid 5 in the face, body raises it to 6 and personality and status to a 6.5, maybe 7 until you’re dating me then my occasional craziness knocks me to a 6.5 again. haha. He was probably on my level.
This was a pretty funny read. She gives herself points for "personality and status" but does not subtract any for being divorcee with a 20-year marriage under her belt. More proof that women are delusional.
 

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My personality is top notch. I am fun and smart etc. I don’t care about that. Seriously NO points for job?! I mean I won’t need to mooch, I have money for fun trips, weekends off and 25 paid days off. Doesn’t that count for anything?! I always thought it showed that I am dependable and motivated. Maybe I am projecting though because a mans career is important to me. Not that he makes a lot (that’s just a turn on) but that he has steady employment and has enough money so we can do fun things. I pay half but I will not pay for him. I am devastated with this news! Plus, I like my job and I need it to boost my HB status. :oops:
No. No points. Have you ever thought about where this belief comes from? Where did you learn that? Who told you that’s what men want in a woman?

True, there are some completely degenerated men within the feminine narrative but you wouldn’t really want any of those soy boys.

Examine where this idea comes from. Feminine is the true attractant. The ability of a woman to be a woman. Even a woman covered in car grease can be feminine and desirable. It’s a state of being. Not a pursued goal. She is more herself.

There are men running around saying the want an “independent” woman. But that is not defined. Most guys are spitting out the feminine imperative narrative. By independent in its true definition means she can do it all and he is just a penis. A social play toy. But I don’t think that’s what masculine men mean when they say that. They don’t want her to be overly possessive and a clinging clam. Those are two different concepts.

What men want is a feminine compliment to his masculine. The opposite of him. It calms him and helps him on his path. It can help him focus.

Reevaluate where that concept of yours comes from.
 

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I disagree with most of the guys here, a woman's career is VERY important in a variety of ways, here's a few y'all might not be considering:

1. You don't want a woman whose career keeps her busy or tired 24/7, imagine dating a doctor, lawyer or business owner and needing to be penciled in 2 weeks in advance to see her.

2. You don't want to LTR a girl whose job is dangerous. If she's a soldier or a cop or a firewoman, you don't want a wheelchair bound wife or a woman whose beauty gets burnt off by an arsonist do you?

3. It would be very nice if her Career gives you lots of perks, status or other benefits. Imagine having a millionaire gf who flys you around the country/world or becoming famous because you're banging a model/singer/actress in the public eye. (Although if she has so much more money and status than you, she's unlikely to want anything to do with you. But then again a female tennis pro started dating a random guy on twitter once so never say never)

4. If her job clashes with your lifestyle, like she's a law enforcement agent and you're a habitual weed smoker. Or you guys work at rival companies/industries (in the movie Venom, Eddie Brock's girlfriend dumps him because while doing his job as a reporter he ends up getting her fired from the evil company she works for)

5. If her job is cool, exciting or interesting it'll give her a lot more to talk about and make it easier to take an interest in her and listen to her talk about her day. Imagine if she's a CIA agent and she vents about botched political assassinations and the shoddy cover-up of Jeffrey Epstein's """suicide""". Or for something more realistic, imagine if she's a private investigator.

6. She could definitely have a job you don't want to get involved with. these would obviously be drug dealers, thieves, etc. But also you probably don't want to date a sex worker (porn star, cam girl, hooker, stripper, etc.) And there's industries with dark seedy underbellies like how hollywood is full of pedophiles and casting couches. On the other hand, plating a porn star could be fun considering all the crazy **** she could do that a normal girl couldn't.
 
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I disagree with most of the guys here, a woman's career is VERY important in a variety of ways, here's a few y'all might not be considering:

1. You don't want a woman whose career keeps her busy or tired 24/7, imagine dating a doctor, lawyer or business owner and needing to be penciled in 2 weeks in advance to see her.

2. You don't want to LTR a girl whose job is dangerous. If she's a soldier or a cop or a firewoman, you don't want a wheelchair bound wife or a woman whose beauty gets burnt off by an arsonist do you?

3. It would be very nice if her Career gives you lots of perks, status or other benefits. Imagine having a millionaire gf who flys you around the country/world or becoming famous because you're banging a model/singer/actress in the public eye. (Although if she has so much more money and status than you, she's unlikely to want anything to do with you. But then again a female tennis pro started dating a random guy on twitter once so never say never)

4. If her job clashes with your lifestyle, like she's a law enforcement agent and you're a habitual weed smoker. Or you guys work at rival companies/industries (in the movie Venom, Eddie Brock's girlfriend dumps him because while doing his job as a reporter he ends up getting her fired from the evil company she works for)

5. If her job is cool, exciting or interesting it'll give her a lot more to talk about and make it easier to take an interest in her and listen to her talk about her day. Imagine if she's a CIA agent and she vents about botched political assassinations and the shoddy cover-up of Jeffrey Epstein's """suicide""". Or for something more realistic, imagine if she's a private investigator.

6. She could definitely have a job you don't want to get involved with. these would obviously be drug dealers, thieves, etc. But also you probably don't want to date a sex worker (porn star, cam girl, hooker, stripper, etc.) And there's industries with dark seedy underbellies like how hollywood is full of pedophiles and casting couches. On the other hand, plating a porn star could be fun considering all the crazy **** she could do that a normal girl couldn't.
Obviously you dont want her career to negatively impact your relation which is what most of your points consist of. What i and i think the other guys mean is that a woman's career doesnt make us like being with her personally or want to fvck her any more or less, and those are the important things. I would never be on the fence about a woman and tip some way or other because of her career, again unless it was the obvious things you listed which would impact what i actually did care about.

As for your point #3, i personally dont care about fame or social status nor am i materialistic or all that interested in traveling (or conspicuous consumption more broadly) as a hobby. But if those things matter to you, well, thats fine. Not every guy is the same.
 
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I disagree with most of the guys here, a woman's career is VERY important in a variety of ways, here's a few y'all might not be considering:

1. You don't want a woman whose career keeps her busy or tired 24/7, imagine dating a doctor, lawyer or business owner and needing to be penciled in 2 weeks in advance to see her.

2. You don't want to LTR a girl whose job is dangerous. If she's a soldier or a cop or a firewoman, you don't want a wheelchair bound wife or a woman whose beauty gets burnt off by an arsonist do you?

3. It would be very nice if her Career gives you lots of perks, status or other benefits. Imagine having a millionaire gf who flys you around the country/world or becoming famous because you're banging a model/singer/actress in the public eye. (Although if she has so much more money and status than you, she's unlikely to want anything to do with you. But then again a female tennis pro started dating a random guy on twitter once so never say never)

4. If her job clashes with your lifestyle, like she's a law enforcement agent and you're a habitual weed smoker. Or you guys work at rival companies/industries (in the movie Venom, Eddie Brock's girlfriend dumps him because while doing his job as a reporter he ends up getting her fired from the evil company she works for)

5. If her job is cool, exciting or interesting it'll give her a lot more to talk about and make it easier to take an interest in her and listen to her talk about her day. Imagine if she's a CIA agent and she vents about botched political assassinations and the shoddy cover-up of Jeffrey Epstein's """suicide""". Or for something more realistic, imagine if she's a private investigator.

6. She could definitely have a job you don't want to get involved with. these would obviously be drug dealers, thieves, etc. But also you probably don't want to date a sex worker (porn star, cam girl, hooker, stripper, etc.) And there's industries with dark seedy underbellies like how hollywood is full of pedophiles and casting couches. On the other hand, plating a porn star could be fun considering all the crazy **** she could do that a normal girl couldn't.
This is out of context and not what we were implying.
 

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i have had this smart thermostat for a month sitting here needing to be installed. i called around and finally found an electrician that works on Saturdays but he said he’s moving today so Monday would work. I said not for me as i work 8-5 and he said he will keep my number and call if he can get out here.

He called 10 minutes later and was at my place a few hours later. He was a decent looking guy, maybe a. HB6 (i can’t really judge looks lol). As soon as he came in with his tools i could see he was a bit nervous and a bit awkward but looked me up and down. not in an obvious creepy way, but when men just do it because of biology.

as i was getting him a pen, he asked what i did for a living. seemed personal but not too much and i appreciated the interest and happy to talk about my work as i love it. he started to install my thermostat as i sat with my iPad on the couch i could see him stealing glances at me in between reading the install guide. again, not in a creepy way. i love how men think we don’t see this stuff. so i looked up to meet his eyes once and smile. he got really embarrassed then or at least acted more nervous and said, “so... are single in punta gorda? there’s slim pickings here.” That made me laugh and i said “well here’s my story...” and we continued from there. told him i was married for 20 years and he said “no way, how old are you, you look really young.” hint, i look my age i think so i appreciate the comment.

We went on to discuss how he was married and the dating scene at our age (he’s my age) and laughed about dating app stories. this all was in about 30 minutes as he was finishing up. he said at one point, “i have a girlfriend and two kids..” and started to qualify himself for me. “i have this business and make good money, am stable unlike alot our age.” on and on. was a but much but i appreciate the info and the effort. i said “oh i am seeing a few guys myself but not much as it’s alot of time and effort.”

so he installed, set the settings (more than he had to) and tested the AC. he packed up and walked over to me as i was thanking him and he said, “going to hug you” and he did. not creepy long, just “friendly” but established touch right away. well played.

As he was walking out he said well let me know if you ever need anything else i would love to help. i returned with “thank you! i know you have the girlfriend and like i said i see a few but if you want to go out sometime let me know.”

Now i don’t know that i would because i don’t want to be an accessory to anyone cheating. i TRY not to anyway... But the option is there and i don’t know his situation anyway.

to me he “played” it all pretty perfectly. i am not one to give my # out or ask for dates. i have 3 guys and am busy. but he was a cutie and it’s good to have options. i admired his bravery for the cold approach and making the first moves. so he has a possibility of a date.

side note: See, it’s not that hard. i am not a “hot babe” by any means. i am a solid 5 in the face, body raises it to 6 and personality and status to a 6.5, maybe 7 until you’re dating me then my occasional craziness knocks me to a 6.5 again. haha. He was probably on my level.
If you didn't have sex with him it didn't go that well lmao.

It's like when a guy says the date went well because the girl laughed or whatever and people tell him things like "if it went that well she'd call you/you'd have a second date lined up already/you'd have taken her home/you'd spend the last 15 minutes of the date at second base/etc."

But hey, maybe his game really is that good, lets test that theory. When do you intend to go out with him or have sex with him?
 

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Okay, guys, thanks for all then convo and insight. i get it. :)
 

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And a woman should seek internal validation so that when she sees this great man, she can recognize him. Game recognizes game. If she goes out and seeks validation, she wouldn't know her left from her right and a great man would pass right by her.
Nailed it. Very few females understand this.

It means nothing for a man of value to validate a woman externally. I can validate a prostitute for $100. I can validate a $tripper with a dollar. I can validate a woman on social media with a simple like. I can validate a random female from Tinder simply by asking her to meet me for a drink. I can validate a woman by taking her from a bar to my bedroom for a one night stand. Until it goes deeper than me sticking my cahk in them, its simply external validation that a woman should never value. Such a shame most don't get it until its too late.
 

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Obviously you dont want her career to negatively impact your relation which is what most of your points consist of. What i and i think the other guys mean is that a woman's career doesnt make us like being with her personally or want to fvck her any more or less, and those are the important things. I would never be on the fence about a woman and tip some way or other because of her career, again unless it was the obvious things you listed which would impact what i actually did care about.

As for your point #3, i personally dont care about fame or social status nor am i materialistic or all that interested in traveling (or conspicuous consumption more broadly) as a hobby. But if those things matter to you, well, thats fine. Not every guy is the same.
Well in that case the relevant items are #3 and #5, in the latter case a cool or interesting career bolstering her personality could tip the scales in her favor imo. A lot of women are very boring or want to talk even when there's nothing to talk about and that would be mitigated if she spent her whole day doing something you'd want to talk about or learn about.

In the case of #3, I will have to take your word for it on that I guess. Speaking for myself no amount of status, riches or benefits could make me date a 2/10 or deal with a frigid prude or a psychopath (for example). however I'd be a hell of a lot more inclined to date a girl if her career actually benefited me personally instead of just taking up all her time or something lol. It doesn't have to be the pipe dream of dating someone who can bring you as a +1 to the met gala or the grammy's or something, it could be something as lowkey nice as dating a yoga instructor who by virtue of career will always be sexy, flexbile and have a great body.
 
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Well in that case the relevant items are #3 and #5, in the latter case a cool or interesting career bolstering her personality could tip the scales in her favor imo. A lot of women are very boring or want to talk even when there's nothing to talk about and that would be mitigated if she spent her whole day doing something you'd want to talk about or learn about.

In the case of #3, I will have to take your word for it on that I guess. Speaking for myself no amount of status, riches or benefits could make me date a 2/10 or deal with a frigid prude or a psychopath (for example). however I'd be a hell of a lot more inclined to date a girl if her career actually benefited me personally instead of just taking up all her time or something lol. It doesn't have to be the pipe dream of dating someone who can bring you as a +1 to the met gala or the grammy's or something, it could be something as lowkey nice as dating a yoga instructor who by virtue of career will always be sexy, flexbile and have a great body.
A colleague of mine dates a girl who has some high exec job at Scotia bank. Scotia Bank owns Scotia Bank Arena, where the Raptors and Leafs play. He has seen games for free that that would cost min 1000 per ticket. They partied in the private club that Drake built in the arena. So yeah, he’s happy with the kind of work she does hahah.
 
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