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My personality is top notch. I am fun and smart etc. I don’t care about that. Seriously NO points for job?! I mean I won’t need to mooch, I have money for fun trips, weekends off and 25 paid days off. Doesn’t that count for anything?! I always thought it showed that I am dependable and motivated. Maybe I am projecting though because a mans career is important to me. Not that he makes a lot (that’s just a turn on) but that he has steady employment and has enough money so we can do fun things. I pay half but I will not pay for him. I am devastated with this news! Plus, I like my job and I need it to boost my HB status. :oops:
Haha this made me laugh.

I missed this post, bad habit of mine is to read the OP and then the last 2 or 3 posts in any thread.

Let's put it this way, men who have average pulling power will most definitely be drawn exclusively to superficiality projected by women, that means how she looks, sexy or not, fvckable or not.

Then there's men who has strong pulling power, since those men can easily lure women with their own self generating aura, they tend to want more then just looks, personality plays an all encompassing important role.

A women's job doesn't do much nor means much men.

You could be a CEO but you still end up spreading ur legs to be fvcked, the dominant force will always be the man.

So for a woman to raise her HB rating, she just needs to be feminine, that includes dolling up, mannerism, body language, respectfulness and etc.

Now you're good to go.
 

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side note: See, it’s not that hard. i am not a “hot babe” by any means. i am a solid 5 in the face, body raises it to 6 and personality and status to a 6.5, maybe 7 until you’re dating me then my occasional craziness knocks me to a 6.5 again. haha. He was probably on my level.
This was a pretty funny read. She gives herself points for "personality and status" but does not subtract any for being divorcee with a 20-year marriage under her belt. More proof that women are delusional.
 

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My personality is top notch. I am fun and smart etc. I don’t care about that. Seriously NO points for job?! I mean I won’t need to mooch, I have money for fun trips, weekends off and 25 paid days off. Doesn’t that count for anything?! I always thought it showed that I am dependable and motivated. Maybe I am projecting though because a mans career is important to me. Not that he makes a lot (that’s just a turn on) but that he has steady employment and has enough money so we can do fun things. I pay half but I will not pay for him. I am devastated with this news! Plus, I like my job and I need it to boost my HB status. :oops:
No. No points. Have you ever thought about where this belief comes from? Where did you learn that? Who told you that’s what men want in a woman?

True, there are some completely degenerated men within the feminine narrative but you wouldn’t really want any of those soy boys.

Examine where this idea comes from. Feminine is the true attractant. The ability of a woman to be a woman. Even a woman covered in car grease can be feminine and desirable. It’s a state of being. Not a pursued goal. She is more herself.

There are men running around saying the want an “independent” woman. But that is not defined. Most guys are spitting out the feminine imperative narrative. By independent in its true definition means she can do it all and he is just a penis. A social play toy. But I don’t think that’s what masculine men mean when they say that. They don’t want her to be overly possessive and a clinging clam. Those are two different concepts.

What men want is a feminine compliment to his masculine. The opposite of him. It calms him and helps him on his path. It can help him focus.

Reevaluate where that concept of yours comes from.
 

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I disagree with most of the guys here, a woman's career is VERY important in a variety of ways, here's a few y'all might not be considering:

1. You don't want a woman whose career keeps her busy or tired 24/7, imagine dating a doctor, lawyer or business owner and needing to be penciled in 2 weeks in advance to see her.

2. You don't want to LTR a girl whose job is dangerous. If she's a soldier or a cop or a firewoman, you don't want a wheelchair bound wife or a woman whose beauty gets burnt off by an arsonist do you?

3. It would be very nice if her Career gives you lots of perks, status or other benefits. Imagine having a millionaire gf who flys you around the country/world or becoming famous because you're banging a model/singer/actress in the public eye. (Although if she has so much more money and status than you, she's unlikely to want anything to do with you. But then again a female tennis pro started dating a random guy on twitter once so never say never)

4. If her job clashes with your lifestyle, like she's a law enforcement agent and you're a habitual weed smoker. Or you guys work at rival companies/industries (in the movie Venom, Eddie Brock's girlfriend dumps him because while doing his job as a reporter he ends up getting her fired from the evil company she works for)

5. If her job is cool, exciting or interesting it'll give her a lot more to talk about and make it easier to take an interest in her and listen to her talk about her day. Imagine if she's a CIA agent and she vents about botched political assassinations and the shoddy cover-up of Jeffrey Epstein's """suicide""". Or for something more realistic, imagine if she's a private investigator.

6. She could definitely have a job you don't want to get involved with. these would obviously be drug dealers, thieves, etc. But also you probably don't want to date a sex worker (porn star, cam girl, hooker, stripper, etc.) And there's industries with dark seedy underbellies like how hollywood is full of pedophiles and casting couches. On the other hand, plating a porn star could be fun considering all the crazy **** she could do that a normal girl couldn't.
 
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I disagree with most of the guys here, a woman's career is VERY important in a variety of ways, here's a few y'all might not be considering:

1. You don't want a woman whose career keeps her busy or tired 24/7, imagine dating a doctor, lawyer or business owner and needing to be penciled in 2 weeks in advance to see her.

2. You don't want to LTR a girl whose job is dangerous. If she's a soldier or a cop or a firewoman, you don't want a wheelchair bound wife or a woman whose beauty gets burnt off by an arsonist do you?

3. It would be very nice if her Career gives you lots of perks, status or other benefits. Imagine having a millionaire gf who flys you around the country/world or becoming famous because you're banging a model/singer/actress in the public eye. (Although if she has so much more money and status than you, she's unlikely to want anything to do with you. But then again a female tennis pro started dating a random guy on twitter once so never say never)

4. If her job clashes with your lifestyle, like she's a law enforcement agent and you're a habitual weed smoker. Or you guys work at rival companies/industries (in the movie Venom, Eddie Brock's girlfriend dumps him because while doing his job as a reporter he ends up getting her fired from the evil company she works for)

5. If her job is cool, exciting or interesting it'll give her a lot more to talk about and make it easier to take an interest in her and listen to her talk about her day. Imagine if she's a CIA agent and she vents about botched political assassinations and the shoddy cover-up of Jeffrey Epstein's """suicide""". Or for something more realistic, imagine if she's a private investigator.

6. She could definitely have a job you don't want to get involved with. these would obviously be drug dealers, thieves, etc. But also you probably don't want to date a sex worker (porn star, cam girl, hooker, stripper, etc.) And there's industries with dark seedy underbellies like how hollywood is full of pedophiles and casting couches. On the other hand, plating a porn star could be fun considering all the crazy **** she could do that a normal girl couldn't.
Obviously you dont want her career to negatively impact your relation which is what most of your points consist of. What i and i think the other guys mean is that a woman's career doesnt make us like being with her personally or want to fvck her any more or less, and those are the important things. I would never be on the fence about a woman and tip some way or other because of her career, again unless it was the obvious things you listed which would impact what i actually did care about.

As for your point #3, i personally dont care about fame or social status nor am i materialistic or all that interested in traveling (or conspicuous consumption more broadly) as a hobby. But if those things matter to you, well, thats fine. Not every guy is the same.
 
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I disagree with most of the guys here, a woman's career is VERY important in a variety of ways, here's a few y'all might not be considering:

1. You don't want a woman whose career keeps her busy or tired 24/7, imagine dating a doctor, lawyer or business owner and needing to be penciled in 2 weeks in advance to see her.

2. You don't want to LTR a girl whose job is dangerous. If she's a soldier or a cop or a firewoman, you don't want a wheelchair bound wife or a woman whose beauty gets burnt off by an arsonist do you?

3. It would be very nice if her Career gives you lots of perks, status or other benefits. Imagine having a millionaire gf who flys you around the country/world or becoming famous because you're banging a model/singer/actress in the public eye. (Although if she has so much more money and status than you, she's unlikely to want anything to do with you. But then again a female tennis pro started dating a random guy on twitter once so never say never)

4. If her job clashes with your lifestyle, like she's a law enforcement agent and you're a habitual weed smoker. Or you guys work at rival companies/industries (in the movie Venom, Eddie Brock's girlfriend dumps him because while doing his job as a reporter he ends up getting her fired from the evil company she works for)

5. If her job is cool, exciting or interesting it'll give her a lot more to talk about and make it easier to take an interest in her and listen to her talk about her day. Imagine if she's a CIA agent and she vents about botched political assassinations and the shoddy cover-up of Jeffrey Epstein's """suicide""". Or for something more realistic, imagine if she's a private investigator.

6. She could definitely have a job you don't want to get involved with. these would obviously be drug dealers, thieves, etc. But also you probably don't want to date a sex worker (porn star, cam girl, hooker, stripper, etc.) And there's industries with dark seedy underbellies like how hollywood is full of pedophiles and casting couches. On the other hand, plating a porn star could be fun considering all the crazy **** she could do that a normal girl couldn't.
This is out of context and not what we were implying.
 

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i have had this smart thermostat for a month sitting here needing to be installed. i called around and finally found an electrician that works on Saturdays but he said he’s moving today so Monday would work. I said not for me as i work 8-5 and he said he will keep my number and call if he can get out here.

He called 10 minutes later and was at my place a few hours later. He was a decent looking guy, maybe a. HB6 (i can’t really judge looks lol). As soon as he came in with his tools i could see he was a bit nervous and a bit awkward but looked me up and down. not in an obvious creepy way, but when men just do it because of biology.

as i was getting him a pen, he asked what i did for a living. seemed personal but not too much and i appreciated the interest and happy to talk about my work as i love it. he started to install my thermostat as i sat with my iPad on the couch i could see him stealing glances at me in between reading the install guide. again, not in a creepy way. i love how men think we don’t see this stuff. so i looked up to meet his eyes once and smile. he got really embarrassed then or at least acted more nervous and said, “so... are single in punta gorda? there’s slim pickings here.” That made me laugh and i said “well here’s my story...” and we continued from there. told him i was married for 20 years and he said “no way, how old are you, you look really young.” hint, i look my age i think so i appreciate the comment.

We went on to discuss how he was married and the dating scene at our age (he’s my age) and laughed about dating app stories. this all was in about 30 minutes as he was finishing up. he said at one point, “i have a girlfriend and two kids..” and started to qualify himself for me. “i have this business and make good money, am stable unlike alot our age.” on and on. was a but much but i appreciate the info and the effort. i said “oh i am seeing a few guys myself but not much as it’s alot of time and effort.”

so he installed, set the settings (more than he had to) and tested the AC. he packed up and walked over to me as i was thanking him and he said, “going to hug you” and he did. not creepy long, just “friendly” but established touch right away. well played.

As he was walking out he said well let me know if you ever need anything else i would love to help. i returned with “thank you! i know you have the girlfriend and like i said i see a few but if you want to go out sometime let me know.”

Now i don’t know that i would because i don’t want to be an accessory to anyone cheating. i TRY not to anyway... But the option is there and i don’t know his situation anyway.

to me he “played” it all pretty perfectly. i am not one to give my # out or ask for dates. i have 3 guys and am busy. but he was a cutie and it’s good to have options. i admired his bravery for the cold approach and making the first moves. so he has a possibility of a date.

side note: See, it’s not that hard. i am not a “hot babe” by any means. i am a solid 5 in the face, body raises it to 6 and personality and status to a 6.5, maybe 7 until you’re dating me then my occasional craziness knocks me to a 6.5 again. haha. He was probably on my level.
If you didn't have sex with him it didn't go that well lmao.

It's like when a guy says the date went well because the girl laughed or whatever and people tell him things like "if it went that well she'd call you/you'd have a second date lined up already/you'd have taken her home/you'd spend the last 15 minutes of the date at second base/etc."

But hey, maybe his game really is that good, lets test that theory. When do you intend to go out with him or have sex with him?
 

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Okay, guys, thanks for all then convo and insight. i get it. :)
 

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And a woman should seek internal validation so that when she sees this great man, she can recognize him. Game recognizes game. If she goes out and seeks validation, she wouldn't know her left from her right and a great man would pass right by her.
Nailed it. Very few females understand this.

It means nothing for a man of value to validate a woman externally. I can validate a prostitute for $100. I can validate a $tripper with a dollar. I can validate a woman on social media with a simple like. I can validate a random female from Tinder simply by asking her to meet me for a drink. I can validate a woman by taking her from a bar to my bedroom for a one night stand. Until it goes deeper than me sticking my cahk in them, its simply external validation that a woman should never value. Such a shame most don't get it until its too late.
 

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Nailed it. Very few females understand this.

It means nothing for a man of value to validate a woman externally. I can validate a prostitute for $100. I can validate a $tripper with a dollar. I can validate a woman on social media with a simple like. I can validate a random female from Tinder simply by asking her to meet me for a drink. I can validate a woman by taking her from a bar to my bedroom for a one night stand. Until it goes deeper than me sticking my cahk in them, its simply external validation that a woman should never value. Such a shame most don't get it until its too late.
One can argue that it is almost impossible for a woman to be internally validated. Especially with the way society is set up. Maybe back in the 1990’s it was possibly for Jennie from the block to exist. You know, the beauty girl who shows up and time seems to stop, all the boys stare, and only a rare guy would get her attention. She’s slightly cut above the rest and doesn’t need anyone’s validation and attention.

In 2019 Jennie has 10000 Instagram followers and marriage proposals from actual celebrities. She doesn’t know her left from the right anymore. There is no internal light emanating from within. It’s all external superficiality. No inner beauty. Just pearls on a pig.

The best of the best you can get from American society are monkey branchers. These are top 10% women. They still value romance and relationships. But they can easily swing from one branch to the next.

There used to be an argument that the beautiful internally validated girl still exists. But it’s like sighting Bigfoot.

I personally think In order to find these women, you have to be a great man yourself. You can only find it through synchronicity, serendipity, and manifestation. You’re not going to find her on any app or night club.

Your best bet is a self improvement activity. Like yoga or something.

But at the end of the day, a man should be beyond romance and about seeking that internal validation. And if he finds romance, great. If he doesn’t, he’s still self fulfilled anyway.

The mark of a man should not be how many attention wh0res he can get. Women should not be a measurement of anything. Women can be in love with serial killers and fvckboys. Their validation should not define a man.

The only validation that counts is admiration from a beautiful woman inside and out.
 

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Obviously you dont want her career to negatively impact your relation which is what most of your points consist of. What i and i think the other guys mean is that a woman's career doesnt make us like being with her personally or want to fvck her any more or less, and those are the important things. I would never be on the fence about a woman and tip some way or other because of her career, again unless it was the obvious things you listed which would impact what i actually did care about.

As for your point #3, i personally dont care about fame or social status nor am i materialistic or all that interested in traveling (or conspicuous consumption more broadly) as a hobby. But if those things matter to you, well, thats fine. Not every guy is the same.
Well in that case the relevant items are #3 and #5, in the latter case a cool or interesting career bolstering her personality could tip the scales in her favor imo. A lot of women are very boring or want to talk even when there's nothing to talk about and that would be mitigated if she spent her whole day doing something you'd want to talk about or learn about.

In the case of #3, I will have to take your word for it on that I guess. Speaking for myself no amount of status, riches or benefits could make me date a 2/10 or deal with a frigid prude or a psychopath (for example). however I'd be a hell of a lot more inclined to date a girl if her career actually benefited me personally instead of just taking up all her time or something lol. It doesn't have to be the pipe dream of dating someone who can bring you as a +1 to the met gala or the grammy's or something, it could be something as lowkey nice as dating a yoga instructor who by virtue of career will always be sexy, flexbile and have a great body.
 
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Well in that case the relevant items are #3 and #5, in the latter case a cool or interesting career bolstering her personality could tip the scales in her favor imo. A lot of women are very boring or want to talk even when there's nothing to talk about and that would be mitigated if she spent her whole day doing something you'd want to talk about or learn about.

In the case of #3, I will have to take your word for it on that I guess. Speaking for myself no amount of status, riches or benefits could make me date a 2/10 or deal with a frigid prude or a psychopath (for example). however I'd be a hell of a lot more inclined to date a girl if her career actually benefited me personally instead of just taking up all her time or something lol. It doesn't have to be the pipe dream of dating someone who can bring you as a +1 to the met gala or the grammy's or something, it could be something as lowkey nice as dating a yoga instructor who by virtue of career will always be sexy, flexbile and have a great body.
A colleague of mine dates a girl who has some high exec job at Scotia bank. Scotia Bank owns Scotia Bank Arena, where the Raptors and Leafs play. He has seen games for free that that would cost min 1000 per ticket. They partied in the private club that Drake built in the arena. So yeah, he’s happy with the kind of work she does hahah.
 

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“The mark of a man should not be how many attention wh0res he can get. Women should not be a measurement of anything. Women can be in love with serial killers and fvckboys. Their validation should not define a man.”
This is epic. LMAO
It means their validation is utterly worthless.
 

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“In 2019 Jennie has 10000 Instagram followers and marriage proposals from actual celebrities. She doesn’t know her left from the right anymore. There is no internal light emanating from within. It’s all external superficiality. No inner beauty. Just pearls on a pig.”

“There used to be an argument that the beautiful internally validated girl still exists. But it’s like sighting Bigfoot.”
Quotes of the day. A reality few can accept. Their minds are not capable of it.
 

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This is epic. LMAO
It means their validation is utterly worthless.
When you realize this internally, you are free from the seduction matrix and can act from your own intentions, which ironically, will make you come across 100 times more dominant and attractive. But it cannot be faked. It is something women instantly recognize. You could be wearing a hat and try to disguise yourself and women will still know. “That guy does not care about my validation, he must be something special.” They will feel the attraction pull.
 

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One can argue that it is almost impossible for a woman to be internally validated. Especially with the way society is set up. Maybe back in the 1990’s it was possibly for Jennie from the block to exist. You know, the beauty girl who shows up and time seems to stop, all the boys stare, and only a rare guy would get her attention. She’s slightly cut above the rest and doesn’t need anyone’s validation and attention.

In 2019 Jennie has 10000 Instagram followers and marriage proposals from actual celebrities. She doesn’t know her left from the right anymore. There is no internal light emanating from within. It’s all external superficiality. No inner beauty. Just pearls on a pig.

The best of the best you can get from American society are monkey branchers. These are top 10% women. They still value romance and relationships. But they can easily swing from one branch to the next.

There used to be an argument that the beautiful internally validated girl still exists. But it’s like sighting Bigfoot.

I personally think In order to find these women, you have to be a great man yourself. You can only find it through synchronicity, serendipity, and manifestation. You’re not going to find her on any app or night club.

Your best bet is a self improvement activity. Like yoga or something.

But at the end of the day, a man should be beyond romance and about seeking that internal validation. And if he finds romance, great. If he doesn’t, he’s still self fulfilled anyway.

The mark of a man should not be how many attention wh0res he can get. Women should not be a measurement of anything. Women can be in love with serial killers and fvckboys. Their validation should not define a man.

The only validation that counts is admiration from a beautiful woman inside and out.
Good point about Yoga. However, would the girls think you're either gay or a perv taking a Yoga class being a guy? When I was in college I took a Pilates class one summer because I needed a gym credit. 3 guys in there and like 25 girls. Only 3 of the chicks were what I considered hot though. The chick who sat next to me in Pilates was a solid HB 10 though. I knew she had a boyfriend though because of her facebook page, but I kept chatting her up a lot until I got the balls after class one day to just flat out ask for her number and she actually told me to whip my phone out. I talked to her some in texting but she said she can't because of her BF. So I guess it's possible if you play it right that it could work, but you just can't go in there right off the bat and start flirting with them or else they will see why you're really in the class. Gotta gradually friend them over time then ask them out and it wont come off as a creep. If you take a class that's mostly women and just start being a playa right off the bat it wont work.
 

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Good point about Yoga. However, would the girls think you're either gay or a perv taking a Yoga class being a guy? When I was in college I took a Pilates class one summer because I needed a gym credit. 3 guys in there and like 25 girls. Only 3 of the chicks were what I considered hot though. The chick who sat next to me in Pilates was a solid HB 10 though. I knew she had a boyfriend though because of her facebook page, but I kept chatting her up a lot until I got the balls after class one day to just flat out ask for her number and she actually told me to whip my phone out. I talked to her some in texting but she said she can't because of her BF. So I guess it's possible if you play it right that it could work, but you just can't go in there right off the bat and start flirting with them or else they will see why you're really in the class. Gotta gradually friend them over time then ask them out and it wont come off as a creep. If you take a class that's mostly women and just start being a playa right off the bat it wont work.
You got “yoga” out of that? LMAO
 
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