This Forum is Depressing AF

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I'm sure tired of all the whining here. Talk of other forums that were once good, that are now gone. And now, the same people as in the last year, racking up post count totals and acting like most guys other than themselves are just pussies...reminds me of junior HS. Don't see them talking about their conquests though. Just building themselves up and putting others down. I sometimes wonder- are they really men behind that screen, or women setting out to disrupt Men's groups (think Sandman, and others mentioning women shutting lights off on guys having men's meetings in Canada).

Pointless drivel. I am ready to f'n leave. I come here to learn and share. I miss the old posters when I started here.
Some of you are right, it's not the same anymore.
It can't ever be the same. This site is going to constantly evolve as the sociological climate constantly changes. In many respects a forum is a reflection of the times. It's a very different world from when Pook and AD and other prominent figures were around.

One can always choose to set a better example to improve the forum.

There are a handful of men here who have risen from cluelessness to success, and have written about their journey and their present success.
 

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a forum is a reflection of the times. It's a very different world from when Pook and AD and other prominent figures were around.
Yeah, it's kind of interesting. It can all change pretty fast, too!
I joined a certain PUA forum about 2 years ago, and at the time, mods were banning members straight away if they referenced looks at all. Even like ''I opened her, but she wasn't interested in me. I think I just wasn't her type lookswise so I wasn't able to 'game' her''.
That would get him a suspension or a ban due to being a 'game denier'! Poor dude was only posting an FR and was actively approaching and writing down his thoughts/journey lol

And now, just a few years later, almost everybody is posting about the importance of looks in cold approach, and certainly nobody is getting banned, lol. In fact , i'm pretty sure i've seen the same mods that were previously banning people, have changed their tune and are now adding to the conversation in favour of looks being important, for example. Kinda funny
 

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. Guys take the advice, do A,B, and C, and the girl still doesn’t care
Why should you as a man care if they pay attention or not if you are doing these things to benefit yourself first and foremost?

I learned a long time ago that when I do things for my own benefit, I tend to stick with it and see out the results.

When I tried doing things to improve myself for others it was terribly frustrating because my results were based on their reactions which I had no control over.

Why would a man let someone else have control of his emotions and purpose of self improvement? It doesnt make sense. Doing things to improve yourself puts the challenge right on us as men. We dont need a woman's approval.

Y’all act like it so so simple to get women
Its definitely not hard.
 

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How do we know how to differentiate between the 2?
Since it is an anonymous forum that is a tricky thing to decipher. You almost have to look at their posts and find out if it reasons with your mentality and frame.

There are plenty of us that have been through the baptism by fire and have figured out how to control ourselves first and foremost, which is also one of the secrets to attracting women.
 

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The specific video didn't have any PUA routines, just a bunch of horndogs that look like they are following through with some dare or random prank. This can't even be serious. It's like intended to show some fails for entertainment. You don't need to learn PUA to do some cavemanning stunt. At least post a proper video if you are trying to make a point.

Also, you posted a video back in 2016. I also found a video in 2016 here:


You have all sorts of videos that year. Most successful video edit out the fails, unless they intend to show fails.
The point of my video was to show how stupid and awkward guys can be when trying to do pick up. It doesn't matter what they are doing. Routine. Caveman... whatever. That's irrelevant.

Now let me ask you this:

Do you really think that the guys in my video would be successful if they tried doing what the guy in your video did?

By the way that video is staged. Watch it again. That first girl was already moving in for the kiss too early. I have on a few occasions actually done something like this. A woman would be completely taken by surprise and off guard in this situation. They would never see it coming and would be more likely to pull back slightly before following through with the kiss. This girl knew it was coming. She plunged in prematurely. She was following a script. It was an act for the camera to sell a product; a common practice in the industry.

You're delusional if you really think the PUA tactic itself would make all the difference to the extent those cringy guys could have ever pulled that tactic off.

That was my point.

There are so many men out there who, despite having no clue, have tried to apply all of these routines and tactics to disastrous failure. And they have done so in massive numbers over the decades of time that this stuff was being pumped out into the mainstream.

Imagine a million guys watching that video, then running out and trying to apply it in every city across America. Every weekend. Night clubs everywhere. Every sidewalk at 3 am.

Do you really think there wont be a point in which women have seen, experienced, talked about or even watched these videos on YouTube themselves? That there wouldn't be a point in which women wouldn't instantly recognize this tactic/routine as some PUA move this sad guy picked up from the internet or at a seminar?

It's been going down like that for nearly 20 years now. There's a shelf life for a lot of these things. You can only make it so popular before it becomes ineffective and instantly recognizable for what it is: cringe worthy pick up attempts by men who have historically failed with women.

You apply that with enough ineffective men over decades of time at such a mainstream level and it creates a negative stigma to PUA that you dont want to be attached to, even if you are successful with women.
 

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The point of my video was to show how stupid and awkward guys can be when trying to do pick up. It doesn't matter what they are doing. Routine. Caveman... whatever. That's irrelevant.

Now let me ask you this:

Do you really think that the guys in my video would be successful if they tried doing what the guy in your video did?

By the way that video is staged. Watch it again. That first girl was already moving in for the kiss too early. I have on a few occasions actually done something like this. A woman would be completely taken by surprise and off guard in this situation. They would never see it coming and would be more likely to pull back slightly before following through with the kiss. This girl knew it was coming. She plunged in prematurely. She was following a script. It was an act for the camera to sell a product; a common practice in the industry.

You're delusional if you really think the PUA tactic itself would make all the difference to the extent those cringy guys could have ever pulled that tactic off.

That was my point.

There are so many men out there who, despite having no clue, have tried to apply all of these routines and tactics to disastrous failure. And they have done so in massive numbers over the decades of time that this stuff was being pumped out into the mainstream.

Imagine a million guys watching that video, then running out and trying to apply it in every city across America. Every weekend. Night clubs everywhere. Every sidewalk at 3 am.

Do you really think there wont be a point in which women have seen, experienced, talked about or even watched these videos on YouTube themselves? That there wouldn't be a point in which women wouldn't instantly recognize this tactic/routine as some PUA move this sad guy picked up from the internet or at a seminar?

It's been going down like that for nearly 20 years now. There's a shelf life for a lot of these things. You can only make it so popular before it becomes ineffective and instantly recognizable for what it is: cringe worthy pick up attempts by men who have historically failed with women.

You apply that with enough ineffective men over decades of time at such a mainstream level and it creates a negative stigma to PUA that you dont want to be attached to, even if you are successful with women.
Hmmm...

If PUA becomes ineffective in this modern age then what's the new solution for someone who has absolutely zero clue on how to have sexual success with the women they like?
 

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Guys take the advice, do A,B, and C, and the girl still doesn’t care. I can see why guys get so frustrated on this site.
That's because they didn't get one specific girl they desired. The advice works generally, there's no guarantee for anything to work on everyone. It increases the chances a lot, but it might be totally ineffective on some women.

Y’all act like it so so simple to get women, yet I’m wondering why y’all ain’t multimillionaires because is so so simple to make money.
What? Getting women generally is simple, getting a specific woman may or may not be hard. Money is something else entirely.
 

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Hmmm...

If PUA becomes ineffective in this modern age then what's the new solution for someone who has absolutely zero clue on how to have sexual success with the women they like?
It’s the dog and pony show aspect of it that is dated, played out and ineffective.

But the fundamentals always have and always will work. Confidence, leadership, social acuity, yada yada yada.

That’s why I believe SoSuave persists while other PUA sites are shutting down.

Fundamentals, adopted into your natural behavior.
 

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I posted up a constructive thread. I'd assume that every last red-blooded male on the forum (or not) would be interested, posting up questions and tips non stop. Instead, just three comments in three days!


This thread has nearly triple digits in just four days.

I'm sure tired of all the whining here. Talk of other forums that were once good, that are now gone. And now, the same people as in the last year, racking up post count totals and acting like most guys other than themselves are just pussies...reminds me of junior HS. Don't see them talking about their conquests though. Just building themselves up and putting others down. I sometimes wonder- are they really men behind that screen, or women setting out to disrupt Men's groups (think Sandman, and others mentioning women shutting lights off on guys having men's meetings in Canada).

Pointless drivel. I am ready to f'n leave. I come here to learn and share. I miss the old posters when I started here.
Some of you are right, it's not the same anymore.
What was the forum like when you first started out? Lots of field reports? Lay reports? Less obsession with bpd or 27+ year old? lol. I'm not saying those complaints are not valid. I'm saying that there's so little constructive commentary, it's all nearly drowned out by the complaints.

Some sort of algorithm might help to limit post count. Maybe a half dozen posts per day, or a max word count, something, anything. There are numerous guys here who posts dozens upon dozens of times per day. Clearly, they don't have a life at all. It's so pathetic that they claim to be ladies men, rich, confident etc. when in reality they are afraid to even leave the house.
 
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Why should you as a man care if they pay attention or not if you are doing these things to benefit yourself first and foremost?

I learned a long time ago that when I do things for my own benefit, I tend to stick with it and see out the results.

When I tried doing things to improve myself for others it was terribly frustrating because my results were based on their reactions which I had no control over.

Why would a man let someone else have control of his emotions and purpose of self improvement? It doesnt make sense. Doing things to improve yourself puts the challenge right on us as men. We dont need a woman's approval.
So guys are getting six packs, learning languages, getting degrees, buying expensive cars, dressing well, travelling the world, getting cool haircuts for themselves?

Come on bro, who are we fooling. Ultimately it all comes down to women.

Its definitely not hard.
Fair enough. It’s definitely not hard to make a lot a lot of money either.
 

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What? Getting women generally is simple, getting a specific woman may or may not be hard. Money is something else entirely.
For me, getting money is so so simple. Once you the formula, you wont believe you wasted your 20s trying to please your boss and impress him, begging for approval and to be liked.

Getting women is something else entirely.
 

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So guys are getting six packs, learning languages, getting degrees, buying expensive cars, dressing well, travelling the world, getting cool haircuts for themselves?

Come on bro, who are we fooling. Ultimately it all comes down to women.
You're half right, but you miss the point.

Yes, in the end it's all about sex. I've posted that elsewhere. From poetry to rocket ships to touchdowns.

But the mentality of doing it just for sex is a faulty one. When you focus on a task, or bask in the glow of your own success after a lot of hard work, you should take some personal pleasure in that as an end unto itself. Sure, it might get you laid, and that's in the back of a lot of mens' minds. But it might not and you will be disappointed time and again if every choice you make is predicated on pu$$y.

Think about this. There are a lot of famous, and even not-famous, rock stars that get laid like it's going out of style. But there are some who really work hard at their craft in addition to all of that. Why should they bother if they're getting tail every night? But we wouldn't have Sgt. Pepper if men didn't focus and work hard on these things, rather than just doing the bare minimum for a piece of a$$.
 

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Once you the formula, you wont believe you wasted your 20s trying to please your boss and impress him, begging for approval and to be liked.
I never did any of that to increase my salary, but I wouldn't mind knowing what formula makes it so easy to rake in money.

I'm thinking I have to start something on the side or change position where I'm working now, because I'm very close to hitting the roof of what I can make in my current job.
 
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I never did any of that to increase my salary, but I wouldn't mind knowing what formula makes it so easy to rake in money.
He's Donald Trump. He's too busy presiding over the United States to give you financial advice.


In any event, this thread is practically at triple digits. Meanwhile, the thread on practical tips for dating women in their prime, has reached

***drum roll****

FOUR POSTS!

Servers all over the world are overwhelmed and overheating and melting because of overwhelming traffic!

 

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He's Donald Trump. He's too busy presiding over the United States to give you financial advice.


In any event, this thread is practically at triple digits. Meanwhile, the thread on practical tips for dating women in their prime, has reached

***drum roll****

FOUR POSTS!

Servers all over the world are overwhelmed and overheating and melting because of overwhelming traffic!

There is no game for that age group.

It’s all social status and fun. That’s literally all you need to convey. Women at that age leech right on to it.
 

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PUA is ALIVE AND WILL NEVER DIE!!!!

PUA and its denizens are exactly as "good" or "bad" as the locals want it to be. It can be a well-scrubbed family park for cold approaches, or a temporary "bad part of town" where you can go for a bit of sin ... the choice is yours.

The townies draw that line, wherever we go. The fine upstanding church-going citizens of Anytown U.S.A. always look with justified suspicion on these weird people showing up in their town. The PUA's will be here today and gone without a trace tomorrow. PUA's have no stake in the local community. YOU NEED MONEY TO GET WOMEN? The top PUA's have no fixed address, are unemployed NEET's, they look like they just got out of prison yesterday, they certainly don't play by your rules, and they've come for the express purpose of getting your women. Those guys are talking mighty sweet to every girl that comes down the street better keep an eye on your girlfriend! And then there are those sluts in the local strip joint!

The suspicion is mutual, for good reason. If you're a PUA the locals have no reason to treat you fairly (You're there to hang and bang their women) surely the cops could find some way to stop your antics!

The PUA scene is a place where a person can go if he's lost most of the resources society likes a person to have. Try to be anything else when you've lost your moorings ... maybe you're not content settling down in one place, maybe you have a troubled past, maybe the road is better than whatever you've left behind, maybe you just aren't cut out for the nine-to-five life. All those things could be viewed as signs of a free spirit, or they could be marks of someone who's just not fit to be among decent people. It all depends which side of the fence you're looking from. So a PUA needs some rules to be able to get along in such company: don't nose into anyone else's business, don't screw up anyone else's game, and when the cars leave the lot all debts are paid. And you need to band together to protect yourselves. FIRST RULE OF GAME: don't give 'em your real name (after all, there was that little disagreement with those sluts in the last town just a few miles away), and stand by your fellow PUA's (shout 'Hey Chad' and rowdy locals quickly find that you have more and bigger and meaner friends on your side).

It's us against the world, and it'll always be that way, so deal with it.
 

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The PUA guys were naive but at least they tried. The guys on so suave don't even try. They just rant to collect 'likes' raging about 'hypergamy.'
 

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The PUA guys were naive but at least they tried. The guys on so suave don't even try. They just rant to collect 'likes' raging about 'hypergamy.'
Some here do act.

Nobody gives two sh*ts about the many others who don’t.

Let them hide from life.

You do you.
 
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