"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Heres the link to débate part 2 of the op post. Its live ,in person, tag team.

Its a 2 Weeks after the original debate
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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All before 1993, the game has changed drastically the last 30 years
Ah, that was too subtle of me. I actually quoted Rollo Tomassi in my post, where he stated his body count was 43. That is why I replied to your post about Rollo's body count being in the 30s, to update that to 43.
 

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Rollo just got exposed again for being a chatty patty and not fact-checking
This guy is in his 50s and reveling in arguing with youtube thots, just to look like a beta gossiper for presenting false information
This is cringe AF
 

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Rollo just got exposed again for being a chatty patty and not fact-checking
This guy is in his 50s and reveling in arguing with youtube thots, just to look like a beta gossiper for presenting false information
This is cringe AF
I am about to watch that video lol.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Who the fucck is Brittany Venti? Why is Rollo arguing with some thot?
Its about time to hang em up for Rollo.

He should evolve towards being a lifestyle guru. The RP now gets taken over by (pretty? ) women. Ofcourse it does. Men will always tune in if there's a woman to be seen, and especially now they're starting to say " what we wanna hear".

Rolo should cherish his legacy , because every appearance that somehow harms him or makes him look weak will chip away from his said legacy.
 

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He's having issues with both Lauren Southern and Brittany Venti.
 

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He's having issues with both Lauren Southern and Brittany Venti.
Rollo should've never aligned himself with the fresh and fit crowd. He is an older married man fighting against Gen Z bimbos with nothing to lose in an endless pit. These women are either political grifters or ex only fan thots that proudly wear their dirty laundry.
 

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Rollo should've never aligned himself with the fresh and fit crowd. He is an older married man fighting against Gen Z bimbos with nothing to lose in an endless pit. These women are either political grifters or ex only fan thots that proudly wear their dirty laundry.
Rollo always has been an attention-*****, Roosh fell back and Rooisy did too but Rollo wants to be relevant the main issue is Rollo should be talking about marriage and how to have happy relationships instead he's in his late 50s writing "The Players Handbook"

When was the last time Rollo was infield doing approaches back to back?
When was the last time Rollo spun "Plates"?
When was the last time Rollo got flaked on a date and he had another plate in the stash?

All this theory now turns into gossip and clout chasing, this is not what real alphas do
 

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Rollo should've never aligned himself with the fresh and fit crowd. He is an older married man fighting against Gen Z bimbos with nothing to lose in an endless pit. These women are either political grifters or ex only fan thots that proudly wear their dirty laundry.
Good point, Rollo is now 55 years old fighting against women young enough to be his daughters. Lauren Southern is a late Millennial (born 1995) and Brittany Venti is early Gen Z (born 1997). Rollo was already in the 2nd half of his 20s when both were born.

Rollo always has been an attention-*****, Roosh fell back and Rooisy did too but Rollo wants to be relevant the main issue is Rollo should be talking about marriage and how to have happy relationships instead he's in his late 50s writing "The Players Handbook"
Getting too big seems to have been a problem for Roosh, Rollo, Roissy, Andrew Tate, and a few others. Even Mystery and Neil Strauss had some serious personal problems.


When was the last time Rollo was infield doing approaches back to back?
When was the last time Rollo spun "Plates"?
When was the last time Rollo got flaked on a date and he had another plate in the stash?
The first half of the 1990s is the answer to all 3 of those questions. Also, it was a lot more difficult to arrange multiple first dates in a short period in the 1990s as compared to today. With swipe apps in the 2010s, I could arrange 3-4 first dates in a week. I might have even been able to double book, which I never did. I did arrange first dates on 3 consecutive nights. Try arranging first dates on 3 consecutive nights without using swipe apps or sending a massive amount of DMs on Instagram.

It must be pointed out that tech-based methods are excellent at producing low-quality dates, ones of the "one date, no sex, no second date" variety.

It is better to arrange fewer dates but have a higher percentage of dates result in sex and/or extended relationships.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Good point, Rollo is now 55 years old fighting against women young enough to be his daughters. Lauren Southern is a late Millennial (born 1995) and Brittany Venti is early Gen Z (born 1997). Rollo was already in the 2nd half of his 20s when both were born.



Getting too big seems to have been a problem for Roosh, Rollo, Roissy, Andrew Tate, and a few others. Even Mystery and Neil Strauss had some serious personal problems.




The first half of the 1990s is the answer to all 3 of those questions. Also, it was a lot more difficult to arrange multiple first dates in a short period in the 1990s as compared to today. With swipe apps in the 2010s, I could arrange 3-4 first dates in a week. I might have even been able to double book, which I never did. I did arrange first dates on 3 consecutive nights. Try arranging first dates on 3 consecutive nights without using swipe apps or sending a massive amount of DMs on Instagram.

It must be pointed out that tech-based methods are excellent at producing low-quality dates, ones of the "one date, no sex, no second date" variety.

It is better to arrange fewer dates but have a higher percentage of dates result in sex and/or extended relationships.
We know Rollo reads the forum, and it would be better if he limits himself to mingling with the true "fans of the manosphere "like we are. Just get of your higj horse amd partake in the conversations where men respect you and are actually in need of (niche)advice.

2012 everything changed. Tinder came to existence. 2015 it all changed again. Tinder plus was introduced.

Its like rollo was specialized in producing and fixing walkmans ,but then boom, the CD player came out. Old knowledge suddenly becomes worthless.
 

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The first half of the 1990s is the answer to all 3 of those questions. Also, it was a lot more difficult to arrange multiple first dates in a short period in the 1990s as compared to today. With swipe apps in the 2010s, I could arrange 3-4 first dates in a week. I might have even been able to double book, which I never did. I did arrange first dates on 3 consecutive nights. Try arranging first dates on 3 consecutive nights without using swipe apps or sending a massive amount of DMs on Instagram.

It must be pointed out that tech-based methods are excellent at producing low-quality dates, ones of the "one date, no sex, no second date" variety.

It is better to arrange fewer dates but have a higher percentage of dates result in sex and/or extended relationships.
You're missing the point, the point is this guy been married for nearly 30 years, a lot has changed in the dating market I.E. a guy meeting women in the club in 1990 isn't qualified to give a single guy hitting the field in 2023 advice

That's my point
 

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I found SS via Richard Cooper who turned me onto Rollo who wrote about ss. So I owe him gratitude for that. Outside of that I don’t think he is very authentic.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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