"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Official Valentines Thread

Ouzo

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I'm stuck on a few ideas for Valentines Day. I know its a bit early but I want to be organised this year.

Who has found some cool ideas for V Day?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Gonzalo

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How bout this for an early idea to keep in mind: not go about spending money and supplicating to girls through this AFC-friendly pseudo holiday?

G
 

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depends on the type of relationship ...

for instance, some people would love balloons that covered their entire bedroom and some want a teddy bear.
some want to go to a concert and others want a new cd.

isnt it a silly holiday?

by the way, i want is to cuddle up and watch a movie with gio.
 

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It's the ultimate AFC-day. Don't do anything special. Atleast don't waste your money. On that day, I can assure you that there are ALWAYS lots of needy Master-AFC's that has thought out the "cleverest" plots to make a girl love him. How cute...:rolleyes:

On the other hand, it's also the ultimate single-awareness-day. And you know what that means...Yup, lots of lovesick girls out there with no dates that feels lonely and unpopular due to no extra attention. So it's a good chance to ask a girl you like out casually without making a big deal out of it. Just make it seem like a simple get-togheter, then blow her mind on the date :)

My gameplan is to ask a girl over for dinner. Make fun of the day in general and do chump-impressions or some **** :p
 

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Originally posted by Gonzalo
How bout this for an early idea to keep in mind: not go about spending money and supplicating to girls through this AFC-friendly pseudo holiday?

G
Money isn't an issue for me. Please stop with your mega-Alpha bull****.

I bet your the type who reads every text ever written on seduction and follows it religiously.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by Ouzo
Money isn't an issue for me. Please stop with your mega-Alpha bull****.

I bet your the type who reads every text ever written on seduction and follows it religiously.
It's not an issue on money. Dude, you're over a month early starting to think how you can please a girl. If that doesn't ring at all the 'supplication' buttom in your head, then maybe, just maybe, you need to reconsider things.

Who said that not supplicating was an uber-alpha thing to do?
 

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Originally posted by Gonzalo
It's not an issue on money. Dude, you're over a month early starting to think how you can please a girl. If that doesn't ring at all the 'supplication' buttom in your head, then maybe, just maybe, you need to reconsider things.

Who said that not supplicating was an uber-alpha thing to do?
Woah, who said this was for any girl that I'm trying to court?

This is for a good friend of mine who I have been mates with since I was young and I wanted to do something nice for her. Its not about being alpha or afc, its about thanking her for the past years.

Month early, yes. Why? Because I figured if there was some cool things in the States then I would need time to ship them to New Zealand.

I aint trying to court this girl. This girl has been like a sister to me and I was trying to show my appreciation. Yes, very AFC thing to do but I aint gaming her. I'm not trying to seduce her.
 

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lol. I acctually dont care about getting a valentine. That will work itself out. Right now Im practicing for a solo our choir is doing in front of the school for valentines day "For the longest time" Billy Joel.
 

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Need a bit of a suggestion for this V-Day.

Normally i dont ask for help im normally pretty good at doing it on my own but maybe someone out there has a great idea.

So let me tell you a little about what im looking im 23 she is 19 we just got together dated for a month or so things are going great no problems. We are really close and very much into each other so i want to do something nice for her but i dont want to go way over the top here. I want to leave something for next year and something to grow on you know?. I was thinking maybe a spa treatment for two? got any other suggestions? oh and yes we have done it like stoned test bunnies.
 

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Well sounds like you two are getting serious GiZim.
I've never done the spa thing... but I bet it'd be awesome... and sex afterwards? hehehe

I was thiking dinner at a nice place like P.F. Changs... then sex :)
If we get that far by then... 2/14 eh? yeah I'll be banging by then! But the spa thing might not be a bad idea... a bit feminine but... I dunno...

later bro
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Originally posted by Scorched
Well sounds like you two are getting serious GiZim.
I've never done the spa thing... but I bet it'd be awesome... and sex afterwards? hehehe

I was thiking dinner at a nice place like P.F. Changs... then sex :)
If we get that far by then... 2/14 eh? yeah I'll be banging by then! But the spa thing might not be a bad idea... a bit feminine but... I dunno...

later bro
Ah, I have done the spa treatment for two before and it was great a place down here called Adigo (sp?) that has a great spa treatment for two even shower together w00t.
 

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Can you **** in the shower? HAHAHHAHAHA!
That'd be clean... Almost like doing it in public... hmmmmm
 

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Originally posted by Scorched
Can you **** in the shower? HAHAHHAHAHA!
That'd be clean... Almost like doing it in public... hmmmmm
yes... yes you can :)
 
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