"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
for instance, some people would love balloons that covered their entire bedroom and some want a teddy bear.
some want to go to a concert and others want a new cd.
isnt it a silly holiday?
by the way, i want is to cuddle up and watch a movie with gio.
On the other hand, it's also the ultimate single-awareness-day. And you know what that means...Yup, lots of lovesick girls out there with no dates that feels lonely and unpopular due to no extra attention. So it's a good chance to ask a girl you like out casually without making a big deal out of it. Just make it seem like a simple get-togheter, then blow her mind on the date
My gameplan is to ask a girl over for dinner. Make fun of the day in general and do chump-impressions or some ****
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
It's not an issue on money. Dude, you're over a month early starting to think how you can please a girl. If that doesn't ring at all the 'supplication' buttom in your head, then maybe, just maybe, you need to reconsider things.
Who said that not supplicating was an uber-alpha thing to do?
Woah, who said this was for any girl that I'm trying to court?
This is for a good friend of mine who I have been mates with since I was young and I wanted to do something nice for her. Its not about being alpha or afc, its about thanking her for the past years.
Month early, yes. Why? Because I figured if there was some cool things in the States then I would need time to ship them to New Zealand.
I aint trying to court this girl. This girl has been like a sister to me and I was trying to show my appreciation. Yes, very AFC thing to do but I aint gaming her. I'm not trying to seduce her.
Brian20o2
Master Don Juan
GiZiM
New Member
Normally i dont ask for help im normally pretty good at doing it on my own but maybe someone out there has a great idea.
So let me tell you a little about what im looking im 23 she is 19 we just got together dated for a month or so things are going great no problems. We are really close and very much into each other so i want to do something nice for her but i dont want to go way over the top here. I want to leave something for next year and something to grow on you know?. I was thinking maybe a spa treatment for two? got any other suggestions? oh and yes we have done it like stoned test bunnies.
I've never done the spa thing... but I bet it'd be awesome... and sex afterwards? hehehe
I was thiking dinner at a nice place like P.F. Changs... then sex
If we get that far by then... 2/14 eh? yeah I'll be banging by then! But the spa thing might not be a bad idea... a bit feminine but... I dunno...
later bro
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
GiZiM
New Member
Ah, I have done the spa treatment for two before and it was great a place down here called Adigo (sp?) that has a great spa treatment for two even shower together w00t.Originally posted by Scorched
Well sounds like you two are getting serious GiZim.
I've never done the spa thing... but I bet it'd be awesome... and sex afterwards? hehehe
I was thiking dinner at a nice place like P.F. Changs... then sex
If we get that far by then... 2/14 eh? yeah I'll be banging by then! But the spa thing might not be a bad idea... a bit feminine but... I dunno...
later bro
GiZiM
New Member
yes... yes you can