"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Faces Behind the Username

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Atom Smasher

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Espi said:
Atom Smasher: you're one of the guys who's apparently too afraid to post up what he really looks like...that's pretty lame as well--in my opinion.
Espi is a girl?
 

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Epimanes said:
Haha I will join this. Here is me.I got nothin to hide here. I'm 6' 1" and 195lbs

http://tinypic.com/r/350syub/4
Elbows too pointy. :)

195? I would have guessed 170-175 max. You have the starts of a decent body, but you need a major bulking routine.

Also, for the love of all that is So suave, never ever wear a pager and whatever else you have on your belt again. At least if you want to have a shot with the fairer sex. Trust me on this.
 

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Haha I have to have those on. I am at work.I took my sgirt off so I didn't have my company name I work for on display. One is a leatherman the other is my blackberry case. I don't need to worry about the fairer sex as I have been married to my high school sweet heart for 15 years and with her since I was 16.

Yes I need to bulk up. But wouldn't I want to cut a bit first? I probably got a 15% body fat currently. As for bulkin what's the best approach? I do a workout routine (fell off the routine about 8 weeks ago bcuz I got sick and family crap took over life) but things are getting back on track and summer is here so I wana bulk up get on routine again and cut my bodt fat down a bit more. I was down to 185 before I got sick and lost motivation for my routine.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Epimanes said:
Haha I have to have those on. I am at work.I took my sgirt off so I didn't have my company name I work for on display. One is a leatherman the other is my blackberry case. I don't need to worry about the fairer sex as I have been married to my high school sweet heart for 15 years and with her since I was 16.

Yes I need to bulk up. But wouldn't I want to cut a bit first? I probably got a 15% body fat currently. As for bulkin what's the best approach? I do a workout routine (fell off the routine about 8 weeks ago bcuz I got sick and family crap took over life) but things are getting back on track and summer is here so I wana bulk up get on routine again and cut my bodt fat down a bit more. I was down to 185 before I got sick and lost motivation for my routine.
Congrats on your LT marriage. :)

No no you need to bulk up and establish a base of good, solid muscle and THEN you cut. Bulk first. Cut later. Never the other way around. You are a pretty skinny guy, you don't need to lose any more weight.

First thing you need to do is to start eating. And then eat some more. Lots of protein, at least 200 grams a day. Carbs too, dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

As far as a routine, just follow this one. It's as good as any. I've added 10 pounds in 2 months just doing this one. Got up to 205 or so, now cutting down to 190. Routine is towards the bottom.

http://www.simplyshredded.com/exclusive-zyzz-interview.html
 

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If I wasn't married.....man ... There's plenty of women that are interested at the moment. (My wife is really hot and an amazing woman so I got no interest in others but its fun to practice dj stuff on some of them in appropriate ways as well as game my wife) I take care of 3 commercial buildings and get to build rapport with all the receptionist women and such. Public Relations is a major portion of my job.
 

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Thanks for that link. I will check it out. :) I pretty much only eat game meat (I'm a hunter that fills his freezer every year really well so I don't have to buy jacked up cow meat n chicken) and tons of veggies. I stay away from carbs as I found out I am pre diabetic. .1 from being a true diabetic on my last blood test. Fricken heridetary. I don't even look like I should be but I gotta watch the carbs big time.
 

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Alright, well here's my ugly mug. Better hurry and click on it before I delete!

-Deleted Links- !!!
 
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I'm no homo ... But I gotta get me a set of those shoulders gripz lol. Ok. Cordoncordon is right I'm too skinny lol. Shyt.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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-Gripz- said:
Alright, well here's my ugly mug. Better hurry and click on it before I delete!



Here's another just for the hell of it. No homo.... Took this for progress tracking.
Nice gainnnzzzzzzzzzzzz.
 

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cordoncordon said:
Nice gainnnzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Thanks; got alot to work on though. Also please edit that quote out! Gotta stay anonymous! :rock:
 

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Fair play to those willing to post a picture of themselves. I wouldn't mind doing but unfortunately you never know who might stumble across it. My username gives enough away as it is!
 

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bad link.. nvm
at 85 kg

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at 93 kg

6'4"
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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OC Speedball said:
The reason no one is posting their pics is because they aren't as good looking as they claim to be. When users see a below average looking guy, or a chubby neckbeard guy, then they will lose credibility in all their posts where they claim to be banging 7's and above.
Challenge accepted!

Edit: Deletage.

Never had problems attracting 8s and 9s; only had a couple short-lived 10s. Way too stuck up and high maintenance. 7s and lower came by pretty easy, but I was a stuck up ***** back in the day, and pretty much ignored them. These are 3+ years old, and not during my "prime"... especially not the last 2. Chicks dig the eyes a lot. Guys could never understand why girls liked me, but **** them. Not planning on dating those homo's.

Started gaining weight from depression and heart-break when these were taken by 3rd parties (never took a pic of myself, and was a loner before this... should've stayed that way). 2nd pic is probably the best, but still a little chunky. Hoping to get back in shape this year, and go back to when I was 25ish... without the low self-esteem, co-dependancy issues, etc. Haven't been fit for years; hate it. ****ing life... always something.
 
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OC Speedball said:
The reason no one is posting their pics is because they aren't as good looking as they claim to be. When users see a below average looking guy, or a chubby neckbeard guy, then they will lose credibility in all their posts where they claim to be banging 7's and above.

Exactly what I thought initially. Here's another contribution from me. Just so people won't say what I tell you guys in threads are fabricated. :D

Greetings again from the Philippines! :wave:

http://s663.photobucket.com/user/Vi...4-21182235065_zps665af73e.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1

http://s663.photobucket.com/user/Vinz101/media/mycar2_zpsda19bf07.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
 

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OC Speedball said:
The reason no one is posting their pics is because they aren't as good looking as they claim to be. When users see a below average looking guy, or a chubby neckbeard guy, then they will lose credibility in all their posts where they claim to be banging 7's and above.

Just so I'm not a hypocrite, here are pics of myself:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/mattstank/photo.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/mattstank/ocfair_8_12_2012.jpg
No homo - you are good looking dude. You should have no problem getting a lot of women if you got half-way decent game.
 

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Fuglydude said:
I've posted my pics many times.

So here ya go again...me and my wife.

http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m91/Treydesmon/

Cordon, looking good as usual mang... How's that hot little Asian gf of yours? :D
Looking swooolllllllllll! Nice gainz.

You still up in Canada?

She is doing well, thanks. Getting dressed for work as I write this. :)


OC Speedball said:
The reason no one is posting their pics is because they aren't as good looking as they claim to be. When users see a below average looking guy, or a chubby neckbeard guy, then they will lose credibility in all their posts where they claim to be banging 7's and above.

Just so I'm not a hypocrite, here are pics of myself:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/mattstank/photo.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/mattstank/ocfair_8_12_2012.jpg

You are a good looking guy OC.

Who is the girl in the pic? Gf? FB? Random hookup?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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