Eighth Passenger
Don Juan
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I have nothing else to say.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
The advice offered within this forum is NOT for everyone.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I actually kind of agree. I think the best way to get the most out of this site is to take the information and advice given here, and then tailor it to yourself.
You sort of have to pick and choose the tips you want to take. If you think you are doing fine in area X, but need to work on area Y, then disregard most of the stuff that talks about X and learn how to improve Y.
If we all did exactly what this site said to no one would be different. There is a ton of great advice, help, tips etc on this site, its up to you to decide what fits you and your goal.
You sort of have to pick and choose the tips you want to take. If you think you are doing fine in area X, but need to work on area Y, then disregard most of the stuff that talks about X and learn how to improve Y.
If we all did exactly what this site said to no one would be different. There is a ton of great advice, help, tips etc on this site, its up to you to decide what fits you and your goal.
evolvingnerd
Senior Don Juan
that is very true, as seen by the different countries
in america, girls are waaaaaaay more slutty than anywhere else
in some places, girls are extremely shy and reserved...
you get the idea
in america, girls are waaaaaaay more slutty than anywhere else
in some places, girls are extremely shy and reserved...
you get the idea
cactus3178
Senior Don Juan
We all know this. And the reason for that is because not everyone is willing or capable of learning the things that are discussed here.
I take it your referring to yourself? You've been here one month, you might try sticking around for awhile and learning some things.
I take it your referring to yourself? You've been here one month, you might try sticking around for awhile and learning some things.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
cactus3178
Senior Don Juan
Lol.
Good point. In that case, disregard what I said. I agree
Good point. In that case, disregard what I said. I agree
Player_Supreme
Banned
I agree 100%. Some of us are true hard core players. Some are Symps and AFC LTRers. This section needs a hard core section for real players.
And a section for the Oprah lovers fan club. lol.
And a section for the Oprah lovers fan club. lol.
cactus3178
Senior Don Juan
No.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Player_Supreme
Banned
NO. But if your an AFC when you go into it then of course your going to be an AFC during and at the end of it.
Do you think that if I went into another ltr and I've been in 3 8 year ones that I'd be actin like an AFC? Hell naww kid.
The way you start is the way you will finish.