"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Thanks for teaching me the 'NoContact' Rule
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
SamTheHobit
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too much **** to read...tried thoughSamTheHobit said:
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I have read much of it, and it is interesting reading. Even if you don't follow all the rules yourself, being aware of them is certainly important. So many people let themselves be affected by these things unthinkingly.SamTheHobit said:
I know a guy who is a master manipulator. He follows these laws clearly by design. Everybody likes him, but he is never there for you if there is a conflict between you and someone else - yet he will agree with both sides when he talks to the people involved alone. And so on. Takes a while to see through it all, most people never do.
The 48 Laws of Power should be followed, but in a decent way, not like the example I mention above. For example, the No Contact rule that WorkingDJ mentions. I agree, it works.
Exactly. You're winning two battles with one simple step.DropZone3 said:
She is most likely wondering about you and perhaps second guessing
her actions.
and more importantly you are getting over it and moving on.
win win.
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Wish I'd known of it earlier.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
My most successful case has been with this one girl. I'd say she has some emotional issues, but when I went no Contact on her, she went crazy. In 2 weeks she was blowing up my phone - trying to make ME feel guilty. Few days later I delete her from Facebook to advance my no contact, ***** goes physco again blowing up my phone. I still maintain No Contact
Few weeks later I see her at a Banquet and she later texts me "lets be friends," II didn't really care though.
We aren't friends and when I get into a relationship with this other girl she makes a facebook status about me.. hahaha
NO CONTACT RULE: Successful.
Don't want her back, No Intentions of it either
And the worst thing is until she breaks and has had enough;the more time goes by the more she craves attention
This is fantastic