backseatjuan
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Expectations kill the game man. Why not flake on her or just plain forget her for couple of weeks?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ariesc
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I told her let's meet at 5 at this restaurant. She agreed. We'll see if that 100% flake rate holds water... From past experience sometimes being a little persistent but not completely needy isn't necessarily a bad thing. If she flakes, you guys can rub it in my face. lol
We'll see what happens. Expectations do kill the game.
nicksaiz65
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What are some signs of low interest when texting?
nicksaiz65
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I feel you. If you know you know I guess lol
RangerMIke
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Texting isn't a game... it's a form of communication. My advice is to text to set up a date... and when you ask a chick out, give her a time, date, activity and TELL her you will pick her up. Sometimes chicks don't want you coming to her home when she first meets you, I totally get that, so at that point just tell her where to meet you. Any other response other than yes should be considered no. If she makes a counter offer, it has to be a LEGITIMATE counter offer like "I can't make it then, how about we do something on [date/time]" and you don't have anything planned then go ahead and accept it. If you have plans then tell her you'll hit her up again later... and if the mood hits you to make another pass, try again.
Invite her to things you are doing ANYWAY, so if you are planning to go out to eat.... maybe a new restaurant in town you want to try out, then go ahead and ask her. I've done this on 1st dates frequently... never hurt me. But I never have open ended invites I always have a plan and then I invite chicks along... if one isn't available... it's onto the next one with the same offer... If none bit I go alone and see what I can stir up.
Fill your social calendar with things you want to do first. This does a couple of things, FIRST it gives her a chance to adjust her behavior to please you, which gets her to commit time towards you, the more she does this the more she likes you. SECOND, women will wear the hat you give her, if she likes you.. if she doesn't then she won't... at that point you should get the message and no nothing is going to happen, or it's going to be a lot harder.
The 'game' doesn't start until she actually meets you on a date... until that happens she should be nothing to you.
Invite her to things you are doing ANYWAY, so if you are planning to go out to eat.... maybe a new restaurant in town you want to try out, then go ahead and ask her. I've done this on 1st dates frequently... never hurt me. But I never have open ended invites I always have a plan and then I invite chicks along... if one isn't available... it's onto the next one with the same offer... If none bit I go alone and see what I can stir up.
Fill your social calendar with things you want to do first. This does a couple of things, FIRST it gives her a chance to adjust her behavior to please you, which gets her to commit time towards you, the more she does this the more she likes you. SECOND, women will wear the hat you give her, if she likes you.. if she doesn't then she won't... at that point you should get the message and no nothing is going to happen, or it's going to be a lot harder.
The 'game' doesn't start until she actually meets you on a date... until that happens she should be nothing to you.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
nicksaiz65
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Congrats on the hookup though