"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Suggestion: Long term relationship forum?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
djSlvt
Banned
NONE.
Because if you're happily married you won't be here. SS is about good lovers, not good husbands. Mothers raise good husbands.
Aside from that point, if you have basic skill, you should be able to keep a woman satisfied for a long time, IMO.
djSlvt
Banned
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
So many times guys are flamed for looking toward finding a quality woman as opposed to consuming mass quantities of poonani so they stay in the shadows and lurk. It's a catch 22 situation.
Microphone Fiend
Master Don Juan
Many of the DJ principles apply to LTRs - improve yourself and develop a solid foundation as a man, maintain your pride and confidence and so on. But many of the PUA advice absolutely does not work in LTRs! You cannot be playing mind games and using gimmicks to maintain a relationship.
Despite what the outspoken majority here preach, I believe there are a lot of guys who would ideally prefer a solid relationship, but they just don't know how to keep a woman for the long term. Even the PUA legend Mystery hasn't mastered that! And didn't Neil Strauss' fiance cheat on him?
LTRs are a whole different game, but don't expect a new forum any time soon (or ever!).
I just think there should be some type of community where LTR's are focused upon, and where guys who are seeing recurring problems in their LTR can bring it up and discuss them. As Francisco said, a problem with posting LTR help here in the ss forum is that the mindset is completely different, and little constructive criticism or advice might come out of that.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
example: LTR motivation
LTR frustration
LTR happiness
LTR whatever you can think of
that way we know which ones are about the ltr's before we even click on the thread.
what do you think?
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Giovanni Casanova
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I'm happily married and I'm here, but I get what you're saying. I'm also not here for advice, either.djSlvt said:
After a while casual sex feels empty and juggling different women is tiring.
personally, the occasional meanignless lay is okay, but i'm always looking for that girl i canr eally connect with
luckily i've already found that, and am in a LTR
and wouldn't mind a place to discuss the trials and tribulations that go with it
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
MacAvoy
Banned
Once your over 25, you can post in the MM forum where you'll get quality LTR advice, hence declaring the need for a LTR forum obsolete.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.