Started dating an older women with kids

[JayAce]

I got involved with a single mom (of a 3 yr old) for a little bit last year and her attitude revealed itself pretty fast. She acted like she walked on water and everything she did was the “right way”. I peaced out of that pretty fast.

 

[sangheilios]

Then why are your pickings so slim. If you've got sh*t going on, seems like you should have some kind of options.

I have no idea, women just don't like me at all. I'm 6'4", broad shouldered, fit, handsome, respectable, educated, have a 5 figure crypto portfolio and on a good potential career path right now. I've used OLD and tinder and get literally 0 matches or replies to my messages.

Women ghost on me all the time, lead me on and I get nothing at the end of the day......yet go for guys that aren't like me. I honestly don't get it.

I actually haven't heard from this woman in a couple days.....so naturally I've been ghosted again lol. Oh well, such is the life for the perfect catch and now this thread is irrelevant.

 

[highSpeed]

I have no idea, women just don't like me at all. I'm 6'4", broad shouldered, fit, handsome, respectable, educated, have a 5 figure crypto portfolio and on a good potential career path right now. I've used OLD and tinder and get literally 0 matches or replies to my messages.

Women ghost on me all the time, lead me on and I get nothing at the end of the day......yet go for guys that aren't like me. I honestly don't get it.

I actually haven't heard from this woman in a couple days.....so naturally I've been ghosted again lol. Oh well, such is the life for the perfect catch and now this thread is irrelevant.

maybe hookers are best for you then. seriously, who gives a f*ck? she just did you a favor. saved you some money too. move on, move up and on to the next one. I've finally figured it out, albeit too late in life to have much of a direct benefit to me, life is a numbers game. you knock on enough doors, someone you want to answer is bound to come to the door at some point.

 

[sangheilios]

maybe hookers are best for you then. seriously, who gives a f*ck? she just did you a favor. saved you some money too. move on, move up and on to the next one. I've finally figured it out, albeit too late in life to have much of a direct benefit to me, life is a numbers game. you knock on enough doors, someone you want to answer is bound to come to the door at some point.

I'm just tired of this happening constantly, it's so ****ing frustrating. I'm not going to resort to prostitutes, one because I don't want to get arrested and second a great guy like me shouldn't have to stoop that low. Seriously, how is being tall, fit, handsome and respectable not good enough for anyone? I thought having all these great qualities was a blessing, not a detriment to meeting women.

 

[sangheilios]

maybe hookers are best for you then. seriously, who gives a f*ck? she just did you a favor. saved you some money too. move on, move up and on to the next one. I've finally figured it out, albeit too late in life to have much of a direct benefit to me, life is a numbers game. you knock on enough doors, someone you want to answer is bound to come to the door at some point.

As for the reference to knocking on doors, I'm 29 and never been in a relationship and only been on a hand full of dates throughout my entire life. Trust me, I've tried everything and nothing works lol.

 

[niceguytoalphamale]

@sangheilios ok you got the looks, money, education, status etc: it's your PERSONALITY! Maybe you come across too desperate and weak.. stop giving a f*ck that's the most attractive when you don't care. The stats above are just a bonus. And seriously boy.. kiss that damn woman on the next date grow some balls and do it. Then bang her and decide what you want. That's how ya do it.

 

[niceguytoalphamale]

As for the reference to knocking on doors, I'm 29 and never been in a relationship and only been on a hand full of dates throughout my entire life. Trust me, I've tried everything and nothing works lol.

^^^ Yep I was right you lack experience so it's definitely the personality not having a dig at you. But stop appearing needy and chit it's a turn off.

 

[sangheilios]

^^^ Yep I was right you lack experience so it's definitely the personality not having a dig at you. But stop appearing needy and chit it's a turn off.

I'm not appearing needy lol, these women ghost and flake and lead me on because of issues they have with themselves. I'm not texting them pages or calling them all hours of the day, so I'm doing nothing wrong. At the end of the day if I'm not good enough for these *****s nothing ever will be. Why do you think there are forums on reddit for MGTOW and all that? If I have a hard time I can only imagine what it's like for most other men out there.

The thing is most men will never be open with how much they struggle with the opposite sex, but seeing my difficulty with them I can easily see how that would be the case for them.

As for my personality, I have friends and just a normal dude. Also, if you look at all the things I bring to the table you can tell I'm intelligent, respectable, responsible, make good decisions, etc.

 

[niceguytoalphamale]

@sangheilios I'm not saying your low value. You took it the wrong way. It's been proven there is something really wrong with today's woman. There is no such thing as old fashioned values anymore. You my friend are valuable and old fashioned etc: so just by reading your response the problem isn't you it's the females.. I'm going through some chit too. Back in the old days if you had male friends you were considered a sl*t and if you were a single mom you were frowned upon. Single moms are absolute garbage hot or not. I've only really hooked up with single moms and a few childless woman. All the single moms are fawking crazy af! I haven't met one without issues. The hotter they are and the more sexy in bed the crazier they are it seems to be. @soulforge was right. They keep there options open. Any woman who was value wouldn't do that and would stick with the one guy. Not to mention single moms are liars,cheaters, emotionally fu**ed!

 

[guru1000]

I'm not appearing needy lol, these women ghost and flake and lead me on because of issues they have with themselves. I'm not texting them pages or calling them all hours of the day, so I'm doing nothing wrong. At the end of the day if I'm not good enough for these *****s nothing ever will be. Why do you think there are forums on reddit for MGTOW and all that? If I have a hard time I can only imagine what it's like for most other men out there.

The thing is most men will never be open with how much they struggle with the opposite sex, but seeing my difficulty with them I can easily see how that would be the case for them.

As for my personality, I have friends and just a normal dude. Also, if you look at all the things I bring to the table you can tell I'm intelligent, respectable, responsible, make good decisions, etc.

Your vibe is shlt. Bottom line.

Vibe > Looks
Vibe > Money
Vibe = (Perceived) Status

I have friends, completely average looks, average money with incredible vibe and kill it EVERY time we go out with young hot women.

I have a Chad friend who feels relegated to older women as he is not secure in his own vibe for the young ones.

It’s all vibe. Until you get this, you’ll continue scraping dust.

Because your mind is a dungeon, you need to
get some “blood” in: ugly, fat, whatever, take them ALL in and build that vibe. Then your blindfolds will come off.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I'm not appearing needy lol, these women ghost and flake and lead me on because of issues they have with themselves. I'm not texting them pages or calling them all hours of the day, so I'm doing nothing wrong. At the end of the day if I'm not good enough for these *****s nothing ever will be. Why do you think there are forums on reddit for MGTOW and all that? If I have a hard time I can only imagine what it's like for most other men out there.

The thing is most men will never be open with how much they struggle with the opposite sex, but seeing my difficulty with them I can easily see how that would be the case for them.

As for my personality, I have friends and just a normal dude. Also, if you look at all the things I bring to the table you can tell I'm intelligent, respectable, responsible, make good decisions, etc.

It may be your location. I see quite a few "couples" where I'm at. Whether they truly are happy together, I, you, and everyone looking on will never know until time spent observing them in person takes place. I believe that other parts of the country are much worse than where I'm at, though I run across quite a few out-of-towners (which give me a glimpse of what everybody's dealing with), my living in a college town. I know that it's not the local norm, the attitudes. I know (but she does not know) that she is in the sliver of minority that acts the way she does, that I have countless hours in countless locations where my general area is, and most people are not like that. It's an imported ATTITUDE that I shudder to think exists, that I am happy to not have to live in constant contact with. The whole country is infected sure, but in some place, girls are kinda rational about "hey, I see a guy I'm willing to fvck, I'll play the straight-up natural meeting and getting to know each other game." "I know there's this outside way-we-are-supposed-to-be-in-2019-girls, but I'm gonna act on my female instincts, find a boy I like, and fvck him full stop."

 

[sangheilios]

@sangheilios I'm not saying your low value. You took it the wrong way. It's been proven there is something really wrong with today's woman. There is no such thing as old fashioned values anymore. You my friend are valuable and old fashioned etc: so just by reading your response the problem isn't you it's the females.. I'm going through some chit too. Back in the old days if you had male friends you were considered a sl*t and if you were a single mom you were frowned upon. Single moms are absolute garbage hot or not. I've only really hooked up with single moms and a few childless woman. All the single moms are fawking crazy af! I haven't met one without issues. The hotter they are and the more sexy in bed the crazier they are it seems to be. @soulforge was right. They keep there options open. Any woman who was value wouldn't do that and would stick with the one guy. Not to mention single moms are liars,cheaters, emotionally fu**ed!

I know that, that was why I originally posted this thread. I was honestly very attracted to her and wanted to have sex with her but of course that didn't happen. I can't make anything happen with any of these women, seriously.

Hell, I've gone on plenty of fish and messaged 4s and still don't get responses to my messages lol. I realize that there isn't anything wrong with me, but to be quite honest I'm sick and ****ing tired of this chronic bull**** from women that I'm better than.

I'm not actually angry with you, I'm just so frustrated by this nonsense and it makes me question my worth and honestly is a bit detrimental to my mental health. I've actually had conversations with much older woman about this, think women that are around 50+, and they are all amazed by the stories I've told them.

Example- I've posted about this on here, but last summer I had approached a girl that was a recent regular at my gym and we spoke for almost 15 minutes before letting her get back to her workout. I see her there 2 days later and she comes over to talk to me, during the conversation I was asking her what she liked to do for fun and she mentioned hiking and asked if I'd want to do that with her later that evening. We exchange numbers, right after she leaves she says something comes up and she ghosted me for over a week until I sent her a text expressing my annoyance with that.

That is the most extreme example out of many nut job females I have met. Anyway, I've actually told these stories to older women and they were taken aback by this type of behavior.....like they don't even know what to say lol.

I'm just super annoyed by all the constant drama whenever I meet a woman and it genuinely makes me want to avoid them all together, seriously. I keep telling myself that there are good women out there but I've yet to see that. It also doesn't help that I observe the interactions other men have with women, which are just as bad or even worse.

Anyway, I'm heading out to go hang out with one of my friends. Thanks for your input thus far.

 

[lamath]

Who cares if its a mother, that facts is insignificant to your current situation.

You are doing something wrong.
A few date with that women and no escalation?

Imo its a confidence/demeanor/ body language issue.

 

[niceguytoalphamale]

@sangheilios ok let me break it down for you.
The woman at the gym don't express annoyance that's being emotionally weak. Should of ignored.
The pof dating don't stress I'm a 8 in the looks constantly get hit on. I don't even get replies and I have good game. It's what's in here that counts not on the outside. When you learn so much from here at SS and utilise that in real life plus with disappointment experience. You would butcher and destroy those hoes. Again with POF the girls on there want a man 10 in looks 10 in personality and 10 in finances etc: hell 90 percent of fuking females on there don't even want to date. They want emotional validation!

 

[niceguytoalphamale]

@LiveYourDream @lamath are yous sensing what I'm sensing? I can sense alot of negativity and self defeating from OP. @sangheilios I'm currently exclusive with a HB9 and we had a argument we are day 10 no contact and I'm doing just fine not being negative etc: you really have to stop this victim mentality otherwise you won't move forward with your dating skills etc: it's all about trial and error. Remember when there are numerous losses there is a win. You were winning until you expressed your annoyance about her ignoring you. Now she views you as weak and you probably won't get a response and she will avoid you like the fuking plague in the gym. Want to know something really harsh? Her and her friends would be sitting back laughing about what she did and your response. When really she should be sitting back 6 months from now with her friend crying and saying how much of a a.s.shole you are and asking the question? Where have all the nice guys gone? Make sense ok? For fuk sake.. this HB9 is posting status about me and telling her friends I'm a a.s.shole she also has a white knight friend constantly telling him about the hell I put her through.

 

[niceguytoalphamale]

@rando5495 +1 PLAYER lol

 

[niceguytoalphamale]

@rando5495 most guys that constantly get fuked over by females are guys with single moms lol bad cycle.

 

[marmel75]

I have no idea, women just don't like me at all. I'm 6'4", broad shouldered, fit, handsome, respectable, educated, have a 5 figure crypto portfolio and on a good potential career path right now. I've used OLD and tinder and get literally 0 matches or replies to my messages.

Women ghost on me all the time, lead me on and I get nothing at the end of the day......yet go for guys that aren't like me. I honestly don't get it.

I actually haven't heard from this woman in a couple days.....so naturally I've been ghosted again lol. Oh well, such is the life for the perfect catch and now this thread is irrelevant.

You are only deluding yourself into thinking you are a perfect catch. You need to really take a good hard look in the mirror because this is complete and utter BS. Maybe you can make yourself believe this but that's not going to work with people on this board who know better.

Once again. When YOU claim you are all these things but the women you meet don't see this, then there is a serious disconnect. There is something you are doing that is so offputting to these women that not even all this other stuff you have going for you is enough to overcome it.

This has to be something really, really bad. Neediness, creepiness, social ineptitude, etc...something that turns them off so much that literally no matter what else you have going for you it won't be enough.

You need to stop with the BS feeding youself the same lies and figure out what it is. Because you are going to keep having the same problems until you can take a frank, honest look at yourself and deal with these issues.

A rule of thumb is when you keep having the same issues over and over again with many different women, the issue isnt with them its with you. So either you can take a good hard look at yourself and try and figure out what it is or you can keep pretending its them.

 

[niceguytoalphamale]

You are only deluding yourself into thinking you are a perfect catch. You need to really take a good hard look in the mirror because this is complete and utter BS. Maybe you can make yourself believe this but that's not going to work with people on this board who know better.

Once again. When YOU claim you are all these things but the women you meet don't see this, then there is a serious disconnect. There is something you are doing that is so offputting to these women that not even all this other stuff you have going for you is enough to overcome it.

This has to be something really, really bad. Neediness, creepiness, social ineptitude, etc...something that turns them off so much that literally no matter what else you have going for you it won't be enough.

You need to stop with the BS feeding youself the same lies and figure out what it is. Because you are going to keep having the same problems until you can take a frank, honest look at yourself and deal with these issues.

A rule of thumb is when you keep having the same issues over and over again with many different women, the issue isnt with them its with you. So either you can take a good hard look at yourself and try and figure out what it is or you can keep pretending its them.

^^^this

 

[sangheilios]

Are you here at SS to sell your victim story to everyone, or to actually uplevel and get your desired results???

Actions > Words

Right now you are acting like Bigdave #2. Seriously. Multiple previous threads gave you very personal and specific feedback, to help you change your results. Here you post all over again, as if you have absolutely no idea what could possibly be wrong, and why you are getting such dismal results. SMH

Why bother even asking?

You must not have read the original post. How would you feel if you had a first date with a woman that lasted over 2 hours, she texts you all week, you go out on second date just for her to ignore you out of the blue? You'd feel insulted as well lol. Seriously, you meet up with someone, spend time with them and even go as far as going out a second time......but they see you as so worthless that they don't even bother to acknowledge your existence by ignoring you? How would it feel to have someone string you along for whatever reason and when in your presence fake interest in you with a fake smile, phoney flirting and all that?

Anyone would be infuriated by being used like that.