"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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So what could a 4'10" man realistically do?

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Was she hot? That must have been demoralizing she left you for a crackhead.
yeah she was smoking hot and yeah it crushed me, hence how I ended up here on this forum and into MGTOW/Red Pill.
I can see now that she did me a huge favor but losing that hot sex the hard part. Her new hubby is on the hook now for her college loans and the house they recently bought so im sure she will end up screwing him over too someday, least it won't be me.
 

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5 foot tall guy? And us guys in the 5 foot 6 to 5 foot 10 range complain about not being over 6 foot tall. We should be thankful we're not like that. 5 foot tall and totally screwed.
Agreed. I’m 5’10” and don’t give a shyte about not being 6 feet.

I totally get how a lot of women are hung up on 6+ feet, but I can’t waste time worrying about 2 inches even though I’m technically a high functioning manlet lol.
 
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Agreed. I’m 5’10” and don’t give a shyte about not being 6 feet.

I totally get how a lot of women are hung up on 6+ feet, but I can’t waste time worrying about 2 inches even though I’m technically a high functioning manlet lol.
And all these women fudge their heights 3 to 5 inches on old too I notice. Even the hot ones.
 

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The average height is 5"9.5 inches in the USA. Here's the funny thing when you wake up your a whole inch or sometimes 1 1/2 inches taller by the time night time rolls around your spine is compressed and you shrink an inch. That alone proves you can maybe with proper posture yoga or stretching gain an inch or 2.

When I wake up I'm 5 11 I have it measured and mark. By the time it reaches night time after a day of work or sitting around before I go to bed and measure myself I'm 5 10. This is medically known to as your spine compresses from waking, or sitting around. Try it sometime, let's say I wake up at 8 eat breakfast go to work for 8 hours, hit the gym whatever etc. Now I'm preparing for bed it's 10 o clock measure yourself you'll be an inch shorter than the morning's measurement
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Agreed. I’m 5’10” and don’t give a shyte about not being 6 feet.

I totally get how a lot of women are hung up on 6+ feet, but I can’t waste time worrying about 2 inches even though I’m technically a high functioning manlet lol.
The sad part is that by today's standards, you are a manlet, and you heightmog me by about as much as I heightmog the subject of this thread. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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The average height is 5"9.5 inches in the USA. Here's the funny thing when you wake up your a whole inch or sometimes 1 1/2 inches taller by the time night time rolls around your spine is compressed and you shrink an inch. That alone proves you can maybe with proper posture yoga or stretching gain an inch or 2.

When I wake up I'm 5 11 I have it measured and mark. By the time it reaches night time after a day of work or sitting around before I go to bed and measure myself I'm 5 10. This is medically known to as your spine compresses from waking, or sitting around. Try it sometime, let's say I wake up at 8 eat breakfast go to work for 8 hours, hit the gym whatever etc. Now I'm preparing for bed it's 10 o clock measure yourself you'll be an inch shorter than the morning's measurement
I wonder if all the weightlifting I did as a lad had compressed me. :mad::mad::mad:
 

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And all these women fudge their heights 3 to 5 inches on old too I notice. Even the hot ones.
For the most part, I don't think guys care much about women's height. In fact, I like them short. But it's far from a dealbreaker. A lot of guys don't want the girl to be taller than them, but I don't understand why a woman would want to lie about their height. Who would care?
 

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For the most part, I don't think guys care much about women's height. In fact, I like them short. But it's far from a dealbreaker. A lot of guys don't want the girl to be taller than them, but I don't understand why a woman would want to lie about their height. Who would care?
I agree. I'm barely 5 foot 9 in the morning but like that 49 year old hottie I'm talking to was listed 5 foot 2 but seemed more like 5 foot 1. Again very hot face and smile and athletic and petite. But like when she grabbed me from the side and hugged me her head went into my shoulders because she was quite a bit shorter. Not a deal breaker but just a little odd because not eye level.

You saw my post about ghosting an hb 8.5 on match cause she was only 5 foot 1 and not five 2 right? When I first joined last year. She asked me out to meet me and I ghosted cause of distance and 1 inch shorter. Then 6 months later I saw her in the Facebook dating app. She had better and more clear pics which showed her better and she was solid hb 8.5 bordering on hb9 minus height. I immediately reached out in desperation and told her who I was and never heard back. I ghosted over an inch. I feel lousy for that now I lost a date from a very high end hb over an inch and she asked me out first.
 

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You saw my post about ghosting an hb 8.5 on match cause she was only 5 foot 1 and not five 2 right?
I didn't see it, but I'm mystified as to why you would ghost a girl over a one inch difference in height. Unless your issue was that she was being deceitful, but even then I don't think that would bother me, girls are weird about certain things. I don't like dishonesty, but something like this sounds more about being a girl than a character issue.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I didn't see it, but I'm mystified as to why you would ghost a girl over a one inch difference in height. Unless your issue was that she was being deceitful, but even then I don't think that would bother me, girls are weird about certain things. I don't like dishonesty, but something like this sounds more about being a girl than a character issue.
I fudge my height a couple inches too but in her case it's because she was only 5 foot 1 and looked it. Stupid me because she was nearly hb9 and and only 29 years old and not post wall. Never married no kids and here I am going for past wall now.
 

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The sad part is that by today's standards, you are a manlet, and you heightmog me by about as much as I heightmog the subject of this thread. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Society standards don't define me, that's the problem with a lot of the man child's on this message board. You guys generally like categorizing yourself and other people. I am in decent shape now from months ago, I'm average height and I'm balding and I'm pulling ladies. I still strike out but other men do as well. I have personally and seen average heights guys pull the prettier women at social events as opposed to the 6"3 Chad. Stop comparing yourself with other men it's gay as hell. That's why some guys can't get laid, looks, body, charisma, aura, sexual energy all factor in to attraction its not all about looks.
 

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There's a metaphysical aspect in to attracting women and people in your life. Where you thought flows your thoughts go, stop thinking about men constantly and how they are categorized
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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