Ringleader41
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I never thought I was ugly. I know I look better than most people I see with girls.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
so I've just realized I was ugly
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Ringleader41
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I don't know. I never thought I was ugly. This is a huge kick in the face right now. I didn't know people were lying to me.
HappyHarryHardon
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ugly guys have to work harder to get action. game up son!
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
donnyjondeppjuando
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PappyS said:
So its better to be a tough macho ugly ass mofo than a cute pretty boy?
Cause cute pretty boy gotta watch his ass even if girls are easier to get?
Tough ugly guy still gets ***** and his ass is safe?
lol
nismo-4
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So? Do something about it! Get rich, work out, join a rock band, get famous, get plastic surgery to look handsome, sh*t give women a reason to be with you.
Case closed.
Case closed.
PapiChulo
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I am not buying it. If you were indeed ugly you would have known that already unless something happened to kill your looks altogether. Walk up to a random woman, decent looking, and ask her for something or offer her something, or go for the number, her reaction will let you know how ugly you are. Thenn ask an average looking friend to do the same. You will see the difference. Just make sure you are both equally confident and use the same material. If you are ugly - you are creepy! I bet you are not.Ringleader41 said:
Ringleader41
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People are friendly to me even if I am black. Cashiers try to chat me up and I get a lot of small talk from people when I'm out.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
PapiChulo
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You ain't ugly than. Only 8, 9, and 10 are attractive. The body and height plays a crucial role in that too.
Ringleader41
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than why can't I get a girl my friend jsut said I was a 7 to 8
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PapiChulo
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Low social value. Under 25 it is all about the looks. Gotta make up for it else where. Got confidence? Got swag? What's your age? Younger dudes are all in the same boat, at least I was till recently.
irocknike23
Senior Don Juan
just what i tell every dude who comes in here and cries that he is ugly
work out.
girls cant resist muscles.
and now its summer its the only time of the year you can have your shirt off and no one can say your doing it to show off
work out.
girls cant resist muscles.
and now its summer its the only time of the year you can have your shirt off and no one can say your doing it to show off
Yah, I didn't know I was short until I was 30. Apparently 5'8 is short? But the funny thing is, every girl who mentioned that I was short was a. taller than me and b. told me that I act like guys who are taller.
What does that mean? It means that I have confidence.
I remember I was dating this 22 year old when I was 33 and I overheard her roommates say this.
Girl A - "Why are ugly dudes always so ****y?" this about the guy she was seeing who hit it and didn't call her back. "He is ugly, but he's got a great body, I don't even care that he's butters."
Confidence, don't be a fat slob, you'll still pull something. Just be a little more outgoing. You probably aren't hideous, just not some beautiful beefcake. Most guys aren't you know.
What does that mean? It means that I have confidence.
I remember I was dating this 22 year old when I was 33 and I overheard her roommates say this.
Girl A - "Why are ugly dudes always so ****y?" this about the guy she was seeing who hit it and didn't call her back. "He is ugly, but he's got a great body, I don't even care that he's butters."
Confidence, don't be a fat slob, you'll still pull something. Just be a little more outgoing. You probably aren't hideous, just not some beautiful beefcake. Most guys aren't you know.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
With this in mind at 24 I am glad I went through late teens to early twenties without really being on the dating scene. I have had no self-respect or self-esteem for years (or any actual belief in my self) and for good reason because dating is particularly tough and some days I absolutely hated being a man. The young impressionable mind is brain-washed by watching more TV than getting any glimpses of reality, male and female. At least a few years down the line it won't matter the older you get.PapiChulo said: