Ringleader41
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I never thought I was ugly. I know I look better than most people I see with girls.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
so I've just realized I was ugly
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Ringleader41
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I don't know. I never thought I was ugly. This is a huge kick in the face right now. I didn't know people were lying to me.
HappyHarryHardon
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ugly guys have to work harder to get action. game up son!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
donnyjondeppjuando
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PappyS said:
So its better to be a tough macho ugly ass mofo than a cute pretty boy?
Cause cute pretty boy gotta watch his ass even if girls are easier to get?
Tough ugly guy still gets ***** and his ass is safe?
lol
nismo-4
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So? Do something about it! Get rich, work out, join a rock band, get famous, get plastic surgery to look handsome, sh*t give women a reason to be with you.
Case closed.
Case closed.
PapiChulo
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I am not buying it. If you were indeed ugly you would have known that already unless something happened to kill your looks altogether. Walk up to a random woman, decent looking, and ask her for something or offer her something, or go for the number, her reaction will let you know how ugly you are. Thenn ask an average looking friend to do the same. You will see the difference. Just make sure you are both equally confident and use the same material. If you are ugly - you are creepy! I bet you are not.Ringleader41 said:
Ringleader41
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People are friendly to me even if I am black. Cashiers try to chat me up and I get a lot of small talk from people when I'm out.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
PapiChulo
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You ain't ugly than. Only 8, 9, and 10 are attractive. The body and height plays a crucial role in that too.
Ringleader41
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than why can't I get a girl my friend jsut said I was a 7 to 8
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PapiChulo
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Low social value. Under 25 it is all about the looks. Gotta make up for it else where. Got confidence? Got swag? What's your age? Younger dudes are all in the same boat, at least I was till recently.
irocknike23
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just what i tell every dude who comes in here and cries that he is ugly
work out.
girls cant resist muscles.
and now its summer its the only time of the year you can have your shirt off and no one can say your doing it to show off
work out.
girls cant resist muscles.
and now its summer its the only time of the year you can have your shirt off and no one can say your doing it to show off
Yah, I didn't know I was short until I was 30. Apparently 5'8 is short? But the funny thing is, every girl who mentioned that I was short was a. taller than me and b. told me that I act like guys who are taller.
What does that mean? It means that I have confidence.
I remember I was dating this 22 year old when I was 33 and I overheard her roommates say this.
Girl A - "Why are ugly dudes always so ****y?" this about the guy she was seeing who hit it and didn't call her back. "He is ugly, but he's got a great body, I don't even care that he's butters."
Confidence, don't be a fat slob, you'll still pull something. Just be a little more outgoing. You probably aren't hideous, just not some beautiful beefcake. Most guys aren't you know.
What does that mean? It means that I have confidence.
I remember I was dating this 22 year old when I was 33 and I overheard her roommates say this.
Girl A - "Why are ugly dudes always so ****y?" this about the guy she was seeing who hit it and didn't call her back. "He is ugly, but he's got a great body, I don't even care that he's butters."
Confidence, don't be a fat slob, you'll still pull something. Just be a little more outgoing. You probably aren't hideous, just not some beautiful beefcake. Most guys aren't you know.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
With this in mind at 24 I am glad I went through late teens to early twenties without really being on the dating scene. I have had no self-respect or self-esteem for years (or any actual belief in my self) and for good reason because dating is particularly tough and some days I absolutely hated being a man. The young impressionable mind is brain-washed by watching more TV than getting any glimpses of reality, male and female. At least a few years down the line it won't matter the older you get.PapiChulo said: