"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Can we assume that you’re in a monogamous relationship? And if so, are you married?
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I guess for purposes of labeling, you could say it's monogamous but honestly, there's not much monogamy going on. And yes, I'm married.
not to my knowledge but anything is possible
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Unwise. This can cost you plenty if she finds out. If you need some pus, you an always "hire" an escort. Just use the normal precautions. Burner cell phone, cash only, fake name, etc.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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If it’s a short term marriage with no kids why not just divorce?
If it’s a long-term marriage and children are involved, my advice would be to not go there. However if you’re compelled, be smart about it. Get a burner phone thats untraceable. Do what you can to make sure that you won’t be seen by anyone. And by all means , Keep your mouth shut and never tell anyone about it.
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Tdawg
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Now, if my wife was a piece of crap like my ex, I would do it in a heart beat. But my wife is like my angel that came and rescued me so can't **** it up and I have three kids I adore.
When I was travelling a lot though and in different cities it was all good. It caught up to me though and wife eventually found out. It was not a good time in our marriage and thinking back, I kind of wish I didn't do it, but it's been over 10 years so whatever. Some secrets though i'll take to my grave.
lamath
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However imo when wife is not respecting you + no sex.
I say go for it
Would do what Rick says.
Also i would make my social media account as private as possible and make a new one specialy for side action, would also try to have side action as far from home as possible, when on buisness trip if possible.
If only it was short term, I'd have spun out of there a long time ago. I'm simply tired of the little to no sex and starfish. While paying for it seems a big repugnant to me, for a high end escort who does what you want and leaves, it's better than the alternative, which is regretting not using my time when I had it.
If your not getting much sex then I would say that's enough of a reason to cheat right there. A woman is supposed to please her man and it doesn't sound like your woman is pleasing you.
I've never been married but I have had a side chick before. It can be a lot of work. I was always making sure my phone was on silent when I was with one of them, had to make sure call logs/texts were deleted, and I would block the girl I wasn't with when I was with the other. There were plenty of times where I would have sex with both girls in the same day. It just got to be to much and I let the side girl go.
If your going to do this, then get a burner phone. Keep it to short flings with girls or escorts might be your best bet if your fine with paying (check out seekingarrangement.com). The longer you see the same girl on the side, the harder it becomes, and the more likely you will get caught.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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Dude, you do not pay her for sex. You pay her to leave.
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I get it. But what is “starfish”?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
When a woman lays on her back
Arms and legs spread and she doesn’t move. Boring to say the least
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Ah yes. I understand now. I call that holding sex or rationing sex within the context of a relationship.
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i.e. have you communicated your distaste, dis pleasure and lack of satisfaction and understand why she's not interested and invested?
And you're tried everything for years, at least going by ur postings.
Once a women has lost complete respect for her husband there's little to go back to.
I remembered one of the mods here (@Desdinova i think) has a guidance booklet of some sort involving having a side dish.
PM him for it.
A man like you deserves some happiness and some kindness in ur life.
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Yes, the cheat manual. Download it here.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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