"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Should you go on dates with women you're not attracted to?
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Albatross953
Master Don Juan
But mostly I say don't dumpster dive, because you may start to think you should settle.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
after a few girls like this i eventually got comfortable enough to handle hotter women.
Don't lower your standards and wind up in a relationship, but if you need practice, go for it. Experience is the best teacher and knowing going in that you don't expect anything to happen beyond a drink or dinner or whatever will take loads of pressure off. Any practice you can get dealing with real women in real situations is good, imo. The more you deal with, the less pressure you will feel with the hot ones and the less you will pedistalize them. Your confidence can only improve and, depending on who it is and what you do together, you may even score some social value points with women you are attracted to.
And if you do wind up getting a little action from one, experience with that never hurts, either.
I say to for it. Can't hurt.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Set yourself a compromise, we can’t help with that but no one is judging except you anyway.
1) She is fit and healthy looking, albeit not the prettiest.
2) She has a face of an angel/body of an ox.
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
Albatross953
Master Don Juan
It really helped me, I wish I could find it.
I think she used to have decent looks, but her face is now bordering on a 5 at best.
I'm obviously not excited at all, but just wondering if it would be worth it for the experience since I'm on a massive dry spell and hardly getting any dates to begin with.
Or if it's better to just do my own stuff and go with chicks that make me excited.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Meatier/meh-tier. I see what you did there...lol
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
pyros
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Maximus Rex
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Is it better to SPEND YOUR TIME AND MONEY, IN ADDITION TO GIVING YOUR ATTENTION TO A WOMEN YOU'RE NOT ATTRACTED TO if you're in a dry spell? Or is better to SPEND YOUR TIME AND MONEY, IN ADDITION TO GIVING YOUR ATTENTION TO WOMEN YOU'RE ATTRACTED TO so that you become used to it.teddy said:
Mr Wright
Master Don Juan
Yeah but maybe if you're not spitting good game at the chicks you are into then you're doing something wrong. You cannot expect to just roll up to a girl you're interested in if you've barely hit on a girl your whole life, you will get shot down and your confidence will go down. Ideally, you dont want to have to date some girls you're not into but I reckon most of the guys who have gotten really good have had to go through that period of dating girls they would not touch today.JoeMarron said:
If you've had 0 experience you can't just jump into a manual car and start driving, you need lessons. It may be a bit embarrassing and hurt your pride but once you get through it you never need to do it again...or you can crash your way to perfection. When you're struggling you fall to the level of your training...apparently
Albatross953
Master Don Juan
No, but thanks for looking pyro.pyros said:
Well, for right now, I have an unattractive woman willing to go on a date with me.Maximus Rex said:
I'm on a dry spell.
Do I do it anyway for the practice or should I pass it up and just keep working at it until I get a woman I'm attracted to out on a date, no matter how long it takes, so that I don't get used to lowering my standards.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.