"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Should u ignore ex dater?

bob2007

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Girl went out with me a month only 3 dates, no kiss. I walked away. She got mad, sent nasty text.

I see her in our social , acquaintance group, people know, invite me to play vball. I ignore her, I never play on same game.

I'm over it, I understand she came from daddy problems.

Should I initiate contact / acknowledge her? Or just ignore.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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glass half full

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If there's anything there, she will let you know.

I wouldn't stress over it. Maybe she will give you second chance, maybe not. Too many other chicks out there to make a "not sure" any main priority.
Once bitten and unresolved, second time shy.
 

bob2007

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Mauser96 said:
You have to decide if YOU want to give HER a second chance.

Let's adopt more of THIS mindset

OP, to your question - do nothing. Treat her politely, the same as you would treat anyone else. SHE is the one who sent the nasty text. SHE is the one who has amends to make

I won't go out with this girl ever again.

I've been ignoring her for the most part.
I was just asking if I should say hi like I would most people.
But to be honest I don't even say hi to anyone in that vball group lol.
 

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IF you don't want to say Hi to anyone in that group, why the he11 are you in it? Never mind the GIRL, why are you hanging around people who aren't worth a "hello"?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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bob2007

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It's a volleyball group.

I play vball.
 

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Dear Bob,
You don't say Hello to people in a Social Group?....Americans used to be such outgoing People...Crikey I even say G'day to Dogs I see tied up at my local shops...I would ask Sodbuster who would seem to come from A Rural Anglo derived community,is that how people in your town behave?
 
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