"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Short chick laments that her 4'7" mother married a man who was ONLY 5'8"

MatureDJ

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Brutal height pill:


my opinion, as a 5'5" man: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I've always said short women are just as prone to heightism as taller women, maybe more so. Because they're shorter, they feel more vulnerable, and need the security of a taller man even more. Or, as in this case (maybe), to balance out their genes so her children are taller.
 

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I'm the same height and I've had no issues. I dunno...women reject guys for any number of reasons, guys worry way too much about things oit of their control.

Just own it. Yeah I'm 5'8" but I fvck like a champ and its the best d!ck they'll ever get in their life. I know it and I act like it when they are around me and suddenly they aren't worried too much about my height.
 

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I'm the same height and I've had no issues. I dunno...women reject guys for any number of reasons, guys worry way too much about things oit of their control.

Just own it. Yeah I'm 5'8" but I fvck like a champ and its the best d!ck they'll ever get in their life. I know it and I act like it when they are around me and suddenly they aren't worried too much about my height.
Dude, I hear ya. 5’9” here and I’ve never had a complaint after hooking up. Massively shorter chicks. Massively taller chicks. It literally doesn’t matter if you hold frame.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Not every chick is going to have the height hang up although there are those who do. I see it becoming more of an issue as time goes on as each new generation seems to be getting taller.

At a fraction under 6'2" I was top 5 tallest in my year at school, but as I have been saying I see more and more girls in the 18-20 range who are creeping very close to my height, which 10 years ago was almost unheard of.

I went into a bakery the other day to get some lunch, there was 4-5 school kids in their in their school uniforms, and every one of them was taller than me, the closest to my height was a good bit taller than me, two of them must have been 6'6" as they were a lot taller than me. Strange feeling being 6'2" and in a room full of 16-17 year olds who are all taller.

Mind you my Dad is only 5'7" and in his day he was only a bit shorter than average where now he's tiny, I actually have to pre warn girls who meet him as they comment on how he's "so little and cute" which he hates, suppose when I'm his age my 6'2" will be on the low side of average.
 

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Well the shortest girls I met are the ones more obsessed about dating tall guys but generally women have a fetish for height, some of them even brag and show off their tall boyfriend.

Guess is like a status (beauty) symbol for them, a trophy husband we may say?
 

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At a fraction under 6'2" I was top 5 tallest in my year at school, but as I have been saying I see more and more girls in the 18-20 range who are creeping very close to my height, which 10 years ago was almost unheard of.

I went into a bakery the other day to get some lunch, there was 4-5 school kids in their in their school uniforms, and every one of them was taller than me, the closest to my height was a good bit taller than me, two of them must have been 6'6" as they were a lot taller than me. Strange feeling being 6'2" and in a room full of 16-17 year olds who are all taller.
Heightism has been a thing for over a generation. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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My first heightpill was circa 2005.

I was at the bar with one Becky and one Stacey. We saw this very tall (say 6’4”) guy surrounded by a circle of relatively tall girls. His back was towards us. None of us could see his face. At most, the back of his head and shoulders were visible.*

The Stacey goes, “OMG he’s so hot.”

(I was scratching my head and thinking, “You haven’t even seen his face.”)

*Yes he had full hair, but that’s another topic.
 
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The struggle even attractive shorter guys are going to have in the game is not so much keeping the interest of the women you're dating but battling against the fact that she doesn't get status from dating you from her friends. I'm just about outright heard this told to me when I was being devalued by a couple women, basically they would mention how their friends don't get why she's dating me. The same women during the idealization phase would crawl through glass to get one date with me too, super high interest.
Yeah, the battle for status and validation through group thinking is probably the biggest force that influence womens behaviour.

This is why you change women behaviour through social shaming rather than laws and rewards.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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