Renegade357
Master Don Juan
I have trouble just meeting quality women who are girlfriend material and then being in a position to approach them and get a phone number. There just aren't very many out there at my target age range.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I can relate to this. I wouldn't call it a challenge though since I'm in a relationship atm and aren't even trying to fix this. Socializing seems like a chore to me more often than not. This is something I need to work on. I feel like I know what needs to be done I just need to get off my ass and do itJaegerPilot217 said:I would say my biggest obstacle is going out and meeting women, not because I dislike going out, but because i've never really had a large social network, always had a small social circle, not many close friends, and one of the most common ways people meet their significant other or potential hook-ups is through their mutual friends, friend of a friend, social circle, etc., considering my social situation that's not really an option for me and hasn't been in the past
You have a girlfriend at the moment? Well you have better game than me, how did you meet her? I assume you were the one who initiated, made the first move on your girlfriend and asked her out first, well shows you are able to talk to women successfully, so it doesn't seem like a chore for you, but anyway elaborate, plus for me I'm never really invited to parties or big social gaheringsJoeMarron said:I can relate to this. I wouldn't call it a challenge though since I'm in a relationship atm and aren't even trying to fix this. Socializing seems like a chore to me more often than not. This is something I need to work on. I feel like I know what needs to be done I just need to get off my ass and do it
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Well I'd consider it more a close long distance fvck buddy than a girlfriend lol. We met on the internet (not a dating website but I'd rather not share too many details). I think I talked to her once or twice before we met. The vast majority of communication was done by text. A few months of my wit, charm, and some sextingJaegerPilot217 said:You have a girlfriend at the moment? Well you have better game than me, how did you meet her? I assume you were the one who initiated, made the first move on your girlfriend and asked her out first, well shows you are able to talk to women successfully, so it doesn't seem like a chore for you, but anyway elaborate, plus for me I'm never really invited to parties or big social gaherings
well better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at allJoeMarron said:Well I'd consider it more a close long distance fvck buddy than a girlfriend lol. We met on the internet (not a dating website but I'd rather not share too many details). I think I talked to her once or twice before we met. The vast majority of communication was done by text. A few months of my wit, charm, and some sextingand she's traveling half way across the country to see me. Sex marathon ensues, love slave created, the rest is history. This has been going on for about a year. Dudes here like to sh!t on LDR's, I've done it a bit myself, but the situation works for me. I'm getting what I want and should I decide to get off my ass I can game local chicks as well. Don't get me wrong though, this isn't an ideal situation to strive for. I won't deny that this situation is a buffer for me not going out and improving my success with women. You'll be much better off building your social circle, getting out and sharpening your skills, and finding local women to have sex and build relationships with.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Didn't step out of my comfort zone earlier which I deeply regretRave18 said:I ignored my career for a really long time![]()
True. Came across a post which I thought would suit this thread > http://therationalmale.com/2011/12/16/truth-to-power/. Reading it carefully would be better cause the post has a lot of depth to it.JaegerPilot217 said:Didn't step out of my comfort zone earlier which I deeply regret
Yeah which is why I attended a boot camp last August and really want to gain more experience while i'm still in my 20'sRave18 said:True. Came across a post which I thought would suit this thread > http://therationalmale.com/2011/12/16/truth-to-power/
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.