Renegade357
Master Don Juan
I have trouble just meeting quality women who are girlfriend material and then being in a position to approach them and get a phone number. There just aren't very many out there at my target age range.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I can relate to this. I wouldn't call it a challenge though since I'm in a relationship atm and aren't even trying to fix this. Socializing seems like a chore to me more often than not. This is something I need to work on. I feel like I know what needs to be done I just need to get off my ass and do itJaegerPilot217 said:I would say my biggest obstacle is going out and meeting women, not because I dislike going out, but because i've never really had a large social network, always had a small social circle, not many close friends, and one of the most common ways people meet their significant other or potential hook-ups is through their mutual friends, friend of a friend, social circle, etc., considering my social situation that's not really an option for me and hasn't been in the past
You have a girlfriend at the moment? Well you have better game than me, how did you meet her? I assume you were the one who initiated, made the first move on your girlfriend and asked her out first, well shows you are able to talk to women successfully, so it doesn't seem like a chore for you, but anyway elaborate, plus for me I'm never really invited to parties or big social gaheringsJoeMarron said:I can relate to this. I wouldn't call it a challenge though since I'm in a relationship atm and aren't even trying to fix this. Socializing seems like a chore to me more often than not. This is something I need to work on. I feel like I know what needs to be done I just need to get off my ass and do it
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Well I'd consider it more a close long distance fvck buddy than a girlfriend lol. We met on the internet (not a dating website but I'd rather not share too many details). I think I talked to her once or twice before we met. The vast majority of communication was done by text. A few months of my wit, charm, and some sextingJaegerPilot217 said:You have a girlfriend at the moment? Well you have better game than me, how did you meet her? I assume you were the one who initiated, made the first move on your girlfriend and asked her out first, well shows you are able to talk to women successfully, so it doesn't seem like a chore for you, but anyway elaborate, plus for me I'm never really invited to parties or big social gaherings
well better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at allJoeMarron said:Well I'd consider it more a close long distance fvck buddy than a girlfriend lol. We met on the internet (not a dating website but I'd rather not share too many details). I think I talked to her once or twice before we met. The vast majority of communication was done by text. A few months of my wit, charm, and some sextingand she's traveling half way across the country to see me. Sex marathon ensues, love slave created, the rest is history. This has been going on for about a year. Dudes here like to sh!t on LDR's, I've done it a bit myself, but the situation works for me. I'm getting what I want and should I decide to get off my ass I can game local chicks as well. Don't get me wrong though, this isn't an ideal situation to strive for. I won't deny that this situation is a buffer for me not going out and improving my success with women. You'll be much better off building your social circle, getting out and sharpening your skills, and finding local women to have sex and build relationships with.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Didn't step out of my comfort zone earlier which I deeply regretRave18 said:I ignored my career for a really long time![]()
True. Came across a post which I thought would suit this thread > http://therationalmale.com/2011/12/16/truth-to-power/. Reading it carefully would be better cause the post has a lot of depth to it.JaegerPilot217 said:Didn't step out of my comfort zone earlier which I deeply regret
Yeah which is why I attended a boot camp last August and really want to gain more experience while i'm still in my 20'sRave18 said:True. Came across a post which I thought would suit this thread > http://therationalmale.com/2011/12/16/truth-to-power/
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.