Renegade357
Master Don Juan
I have trouble just meeting quality women who are girlfriend material and then being in a position to approach them and get a phone number. There just aren't very many out there at my target age range.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I can relate to this. I wouldn't call it a challenge though since I'm in a relationship atm and aren't even trying to fix this. Socializing seems like a chore to me more often than not. This is something I need to work on. I feel like I know what needs to be done I just need to get off my ass and do itJaegerPilot217 said:I would say my biggest obstacle is going out and meeting women, not because I dislike going out, but because i've never really had a large social network, always had a small social circle, not many close friends, and one of the most common ways people meet their significant other or potential hook-ups is through their mutual friends, friend of a friend, social circle, etc., considering my social situation that's not really an option for me and hasn't been in the past
You have a girlfriend at the moment? Well you have better game than me, how did you meet her? I assume you were the one who initiated, made the first move on your girlfriend and asked her out first, well shows you are able to talk to women successfully, so it doesn't seem like a chore for you, but anyway elaborate, plus for me I'm never really invited to parties or big social gaheringsJoeMarron said:I can relate to this. I wouldn't call it a challenge though since I'm in a relationship atm and aren't even trying to fix this. Socializing seems like a chore to me more often than not. This is something I need to work on. I feel like I know what needs to be done I just need to get off my ass and do it
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Well I'd consider it more a close long distance fvck buddy than a girlfriend lol. We met on the internet (not a dating website but I'd rather not share too many details). I think I talked to her once or twice before we met. The vast majority of communication was done by text. A few months of my wit, charm, and some sextingJaegerPilot217 said:You have a girlfriend at the moment? Well you have better game than me, how did you meet her? I assume you were the one who initiated, made the first move on your girlfriend and asked her out first, well shows you are able to talk to women successfully, so it doesn't seem like a chore for you, but anyway elaborate, plus for me I'm never really invited to parties or big social gaherings
well better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at allJoeMarron said:Well I'd consider it more a close long distance fvck buddy than a girlfriend lol. We met on the internet (not a dating website but I'd rather not share too many details). I think I talked to her once or twice before we met. The vast majority of communication was done by text. A few months of my wit, charm, and some sextingand she's traveling half way across the country to see me. Sex marathon ensues, love slave created, the rest is history. This has been going on for about a year. Dudes here like to sh!t on LDR's, I've done it a bit myself, but the situation works for me. I'm getting what I want and should I decide to get off my ass I can game local chicks as well. Don't get me wrong though, this isn't an ideal situation to strive for. I won't deny that this situation is a buffer for me not going out and improving my success with women. You'll be much better off building your social circle, getting out and sharpening your skills, and finding local women to have sex and build relationships with.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Didn't step out of my comfort zone earlier which I deeply regretRave18 said:I ignored my career for a really long time![]()
True. Came across a post which I thought would suit this thread > http://therationalmale.com/2011/12/16/truth-to-power/. Reading it carefully would be better cause the post has a lot of depth to it.JaegerPilot217 said:Didn't step out of my comfort zone earlier which I deeply regret
Yeah which is why I attended a boot camp last August and really want to gain more experience while i'm still in my 20'sRave18 said:True. Came across a post which I thought would suit this thread > http://therationalmale.com/2011/12/16/truth-to-power/
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.