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Alot of intellectuals have the issue. Even multimillionaire and billionaires.
This is extremely true. I have known multi multi Millionaires (Never met a Billionaire before, Atleast to my knowledge) they have problems approaching and/or talking to Women even though they have extreme wealth and do have confidence business wise. I had a 8 figure earner ask me how i'm able to just go and talk to Women so freely and confidently, I told him to just go and start getting comfortable with Women you find attractive. They stink, sh*t and piss just like us.
 

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This is extremely true. I have known multi multi Millionaires (Never met a Billionaire before, Atleast to my knowledge) they have problems approaching and/or talking to Women even though they have extreme wealth and do have confidence business wise. I had a 8 figure earner ask me how i'm able to just go and talk to Women so freely and confidently, I told him to just go and start getting comfortable with Women you find attractive. They stink, sh*t and piss just like us.
Those men get "targeted" though. So its nearly impossible for them to have a truthful interaction.
 

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Those men get "targeted" though. So its nearly impossible for them to have a truthful interaction.
100% True as well. This is why showing that you have wealth puts a target on your forehead to gold diggers and Women who are on the prowl for the "Rich Husband". After a while, sure she will find out eventually if you're pulling up in a Audi R8 and bringing her to your luxurious apartment/home but at first, the Women should know nothing of your Money status.
 

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100% True as well. This is why showing that you have wealth puts a target on your forehead to gold diggers and Women who are on the prowl for the "Rich Husband". After a while, sure she will find out eventually if you're pulling up in a Audi R8 and bringing her to your luxurious apartment/home but at first, the Women should know nothing of your Money status.
It be better for those women to think your a normal guy and to be desired you for being attractive.
 
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100% True as well. This is why showing that you have wealth puts a target on your forehead to gold diggers and Women who are on the prowl for the "Rich Husband". After a while, sure she will find out eventually if you're pulling up in a Audi R8 and bringing her to your luxurious apartment/home but at first, the Women should know nothing of your Money status.
If I had a couple million I would be nowhere near these stupid sites or having to use stupid OLD. A lot on OLD want guys with money. The HB9 snob I could tell was looking for money. She had a good paying teaching job but complained about the cost of stuff and such. She thought I had $$ because I owned a business. See, if I can get some cash flowing I can pull in HB9s who are hot regardless of personality. If they're good in bed I can put up with an HB20 snob and just throw some cash at them to shut them up. I'm sure that's what Trump does with Melania.
 

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I would agree that over the past 15+ years women's behavior towards men has gotten worse (disrespect, bratty, wannabe princess, lack of effort) due to hyperinflation of their SMV as a result mainly of dating apps and social media and all the fake validation and mostly the Paradox of Choice. This is 100% fact.

I would also state that both men and women 20-40 are largely incapable of LTRs, marriage, and pair bonding because they lack the basic tools to do so. By tools I mean, this generation has been SO sheltered, coddled, and protected from failure that they just simply don't know how to solve problems and challenges that invariably and WILL DEFINITELY come up in any relationship. They cannot talk, problem solve, unless it's over chat or text.
I don’t think they lack the basic tools to make it work, I think men just see no point in entering into a committed relationship in 2019. To commit to a female where a value does down and her expectations go up is not the most logical thing to do.

If a man is to build a career and build a business, he does not want the hassle of a relationship, where she can constantly berate him and decide to ruin him based on her feelings.

For this group, as soon as a LTR or even marriage hits a few challenges one or both hit the eject button because they lack the emotional maturity and said interpersonal "tools" to talk and work through these challenges. Now, throw in dating apps, social media, over-reliance on technology (text vs talk and NIP Syndrome), and the fact that this age group has been brought up on an over-abundance of sugar-coated Disney and Pixar movies and you have a perfect storm for legions of couples who have ZERO clue on how to make a relationship actually work. "Oh, we had a fight. This person is SO not for me (swipe, swipe swipe...)."
Men dont see the value into putting effort into a relationship when hypergamy exists and is encouraged and rewarded. The mans responsibility should be to have sex and get her pregnant, the woman’s responsibility is to make the relationship work.
 

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I think the dudes in Japan just rather be by themselves it seems. They work, they eat and they get their kicks from porn and used panties (there are actually vending machines with used ladies panties. Unreal). They are true dudes going their own way (JMGTOW). That could be the future of many dudes in the world.
The Japanese are by nature and culture a more industrious and introverted nation. I've actually watched many documentaries on this subject, the startlingly low birth rate trend in their country, and I think some of the issues they've had for a while now are starting to become pretty common in western culture. There is a high expectation for people to succeed, particularly men, and due to the sheer pressure they work and study to the point where it becomes detrimental to their emotional well being.

As you mentioned, many of them have truly gone their own way and never even leave the house, they even have a specific term for them in Japan that I don't recall off the top of my head.

Let's face it, if you grew up feeling that nothing was good enough and being put under such pressure in school, and later work, you are going to have issues with self esteem, possibly depression, anxiety, etc. You go and work tirelessly, grinding every single day in a position that probably doesn't offer much in regards to personal satisfaction. How is such a man expected to be able to do well in his romantic life if that was his life experience?
 

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Alot of asian and indian families kill their sons balls forcing him to be a doctor and the shame and stigma if they arent.
 

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100% True as well. This is why showing that you have wealth puts a target on your forehead to gold diggers and Women who are on the prowl for the "Rich Husband". After a while, sure she will find out eventually if you're pulling up in a Audi R8 and bringing her to your luxurious apartment/home but at first, the Women should know nothing of your Money status.
I think it depends on how you meet women. If you are wearing fancy clothes, jewelry and post a lavish lifestyle on instagram you are naturally going to attract gold diggers. Some men do this specifically to get women, so long as they know it isn't really them that the women like he should be fine.

No woman in her right mind would want to be with a guy who is homeless, broke, has no ambition, etc. However, no woman in her right mind would only go for a man purely because of his money.

Hell, disregarding women/relationships we can even see this with other people as well, men and women both. By flaunting wealth and status you are going to attract the wrong kind of people into your life. I know of a guy in my area who is a middle income earner but associates with real estate scam artists purely because he sees them as a means to potentially make it big in the future. A lot of people naturally do this to some extent, as it's good to have a social circle consisting of successful people, but not to the point where the friendships are completely fake and materialistic.
 
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Most men today have no ambitions, no goals, no plan, no projects. They just stay at home doing nothing, and when they do go out, they hope a hot girl will suddenly cross their path and fall in love with them.

Get a project and stick with it. Work your mind, your body, your soul. Be curious about the world. Dress well, get in shape, get some charm and girls will notice.

Come on men.
In an earlier age, this idea would have some currency, as there was, as an economist would put it, a decent amount of elasticity of desirability to self-improvement. However, the situation today is that, aside from the extraordinarily successful, the dutiful, hard-working, self-actualizing incel-tier man is, at the end of the day, still an incel :mad:, while the carefree, bro Chad is still a Chad :rolleyes:. Oh sure, after a woman has done her time on the c0ck carousel, perhaps with a few mouths to feed, she will desire that incel-tier man as decent beta material. :down:
 

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As one of those guys let me help you out with an answer.

I am far happier as a 30 year old dude that hasn't been laid for some time than I ever was when I was in a sex filled relationship or getting regular casual sex from different Women. Since I last got laid I am earning 16% more salary and I got my first passport and went solo traveling for the first time this Summer. Oh and I also have 5 figures saved up in my bank when 12 months ago I was living hand to mouth. Pretty much all of the girls I have been with have had a bucket of screws loose but then so did I until I focused on myself. Gotta lay those foundations to build on so it doesn't all come crumbling down.. again.. like so many other times that it has before.

Life is just... better...
I've done a very high amount of solo traveling abroad. Almost all destinations have had at least some aspect of sex tourism.
 
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I syill think its healthier for a man to get some puzzy. As long as he doesn't degrade himself in the process.
The thing about not getting puzzy is that it builds up this frustration - and it's a frustratation that fapping cannot assuage. There just is something about having a decently attractive woman involved in getting the man to ejaculate that - even if he has to pay for it (which almost men do one way or another, LOL) - satisfies this frustration.
 

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Most of my dates go somewhere, it wasn't always that way for me but it has been for a few years now. Why is that?
Your dates are older, and thus not as picky. If a man continues to date women his age, eventually they will start sticking around and putting out generously.
 

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No way could it be that low. 5? No chance. Plenty of single moms, fatties and bi-polar ladies to use as bunker busters.
LOL, I think I've only had 6 amateurs, and I am convinced that except for the one that was fat, they were all bi-polar. I never could go through with sexing up a single mommy as since I have been childless, it always felt like it would be self-cuckolding.
 

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Then I need to go to japan and get one of these hot Japanese girls since it seems easier and less competition over there.
In the West? Yes, in Japan, prob. not. If they are traditional, they'd rather have a Asian dude than a Yankee.
 
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