Seems like most men are single

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Out of all the dozens of men that I know, in their 20s to early 30s, only a handful of them are actually in relationships.

Now, all of these guys are all at least reasonably attractive, so not a bunch of basement dwellers or anything. What I do know is that while they do date occasionally nothing ever comes of it, which surprises me because these are all normal good guys.

I'm starting to believe that far more men are actually going completely without sex than we are lead to believe, though naturally these men aren't going to broadcast that to the world.

I don't really get it to be quite honest, because I've seen these men try to go out with women. It seems the real issue is that women simply just don't want men in today's society. They'd rather stay at home and play with their vibrator while waiting for god knows what.
 

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It’s a lot harder to get established today then it was 20 years ago. The guys I know who are in relationships are all very much “***** whipped”. They do whatever the women says and really don’t have much going on for themselves outside there partner. The men who aren’t have fulfilling lives and maybe in the back of there mind they want a relationship but unfortunately these are the times where living in.

Me personally im 28 about to finish up my engineering degree dated a lot when I was 18-23 but then life hit me and I had to get **** done. I feel like there are women who genuinely want a relationship, but most women today are very insecure and desperate. There on Instagram all day and have the media telling them they can do anything they want. Then they come back to reality and nothing adds. Women today don’t know what they want and on top of that they have become insecure and desperate. I can see why young guys and 30 something don’t want to date them. It’s way to much negative energy. Now a days with tinder, porn videos and girls dressing half naked, most guys can get there “fix” for the week and be on there way.

I haven’t been on a date in several years so take my opinion lightly. I feel like the moment a guy gets married or enters a relationship is when he has surrendered. The quality of people in general is going down.
 

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Go out of ur house and check out just 1 of the local night scene club.

Then count how many hot girls are going in and out of it within 3 hours.

Even a shiethole joint has women coming in and out.

And some of those high end establishments requires high entrance fees for guys - a qualifier.
I will never pay entrance fees to nightclubs. Ever. I’ll just miss out on those women and I’m ok with that. The way I look at it is those women are missing out on me, sucks for them that I’m cheap and too prideful to pay entrance fees.lol
 

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That's common knowledge here. It's because 3% of the men are fvcking 99% of the women. The remaining guys don't get laid or occasionally settle for a girl well-below what they could get if they worked on themselves.

The point of this community is to learn how to be in that 3% of guys.
 

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That's common knowledge here. It's because 3% of the men are fvcking 99% of the women. The remaining guys don't get laid or occasionally settle for a girl well-below what they could get if they worked on themselves.

The point of this community is to learn how to be in that 3% of guys.
Pretty sure it's more than 3%, but I get your point.
 

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Have you seen the quality of women out there? I just saw a land whale on facebook telling the world she demands to come home to "I love you" written in candles on the bedroom floor. So jumping through a thousand hoops and dancing like a monkey gets you sex with a 21st century mess that can't even open a can baked beans. Is this the prize? What else do we get in return? It used to be babies (they killed all the babies) so now the return when you consider expenses and the sheer ballache of it all is below nothing
 

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I will never pay entrance fees to nightclubs. Ever. I’ll just miss out on those women and I’m ok with that. The way I look at it is those women are missing out on me, sucks for them that I’m cheap and too prideful to pay entrance fees.lol
Night clubs are a total scam to suck money out of thirsty guys. Clubs let women in for free because women are the bait to draw in men. Once inside women drink-hustle the guys to get their validation fix and the clubs rake in the cash. It's a symbiotic arrangement for the women and the clubs while being a parasitic arrangement for the men.

Online dating uses the same scheme and thirsty men fall for it like clockwork as well...
 

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Pretty sure it's more than 3%, but I get your point.
I know it seems low, but walk down the street and look at the first 100 guys you pass. Of those, how many are in the market, and have both the looks and the game to get sex whenever they want it? I'd say 3% might actually be high!
 

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Night clubs are a total scam to suck money out of thirsty guys. Clubs let women in for free because women are the bait to draw in men. Once inside women drink-hustle the guys to get their validation fix and the clubs rake in the cash. It's a symbiotic arrangement for the women and the clubs while being a parasitic arrangement for the men.

Online dating uses the same scheme and thirsty men fall for it like clockwork as well...
I don't think the medium itself matters that much, it doesn't matter whether it's on OLD, clubs or cold approach, women generally don't want to be contacted by unknown men who are not around the cream of the crop. That's why PUA cold approaching gets into the news as a scandal reported to the police, eliminating it as a viable outlet for most men along with OLD and clubs. The exception is if she has low self esteem and either medicates that with sex, feels she only deserves unattractive men, only feels safe or in control with men less attractive than herself, or she has a pathology... then the man's odds are better.

If you think about our evolutionary history that makes sense, why would she take the risk of dating an unvetted stranger unless he's so attractive she can't afford to not take the risk? And if he isn't at the top of the heap, then the fact he has to cold approach means women in his actual proximity evidently don't want him (her evolutionary brain speaking).

Humans, especially before the neolithic, didn't evolve in an environment where we sought out complete strangers for sex or competed with hundreds/thousands of other options in clubs and OLD... we would typically either know them, know of them, or vet them into our tribe if they really were total strangers. OLD, clubs and cold approaching are not the environments we evolved in, we are just starting to do so now and they are harsher than dating by proximity... the best way is still what we've always done, which is to either be so attractive that you live by different rules, or date within social circles where people either know each other, know of each other, or vet each other in.
 
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I know it seems low, but walk down the street and look at the first 100 guys you pass. Of those, how many are in the market, and have both the looks and the game to get sex whenever they want it? I'd say 3% might actually be high!

This is only true outside of high school, college, the military, or any social community. Within social communities, any guy who is a 6 can get laid if he tries. Back in college, everyone was hooking up (at least from what I rememebered). And not all of them were studs. Most guys have a hard time getting access to women in the first place after college. That's the main culprit. It is why I always tell guys to get a social life that has women in it. It would solve 90% of your problems. It will make you less needy and normalize you if and when you ARE in the presence of females. If you go long enough without experiencing social abundance, you are going to start giving off needy vibes. And neediness being the number 1 killer of attraction.

There is no such thing as leaving your basement once a month and putting on your "game" persona and suddenly being able to attract women. You actually need a social life - an ecosystem where women are constantly coming in.
 

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I will never pay entrance fees to nightclubs. Ever. I’ll just miss out on those women and I’m ok with that.
Those fees are often waived for men who bring numerous women in with them. Approach a group outside of the club and lead the way letting everyone know those women are coming in with you.



Clubs let women in for free because women are the bait to draw in men. Once inside women drink-hustle the guys to get their validation fix and the clubs rake in the cash. It's a symbiotic arrangement for the women and the clubs while being a parasitic arrangement for the men.
Grease the hands of the club's Maitre d' and you'll be the one skipping lines and getting the free drinks.

On most nights I go to these places, I'll slide the Maitre d' $60, $40 to the bartender for himself and maybe even a 20 to a bouncer stationed near the bar. For that $120 I never stand in line getting into the club, have a section of the bar to myself that is off limits to the public, get a stack of club "tickets" from the Maitre d' that I give to the bartender for free drinks and sometimes even have the bouncer clear the way through the sardine packed crowd so I can get to the bathroom faster.

I get at least twice my money's worth just at the bar alone.
 

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I heard something the other day that was spot on: The vast majority of people walk around thinking compulsively about everything - and by association, the ramifications of everything - and never taking action because the fear of what might happen which paralyzes them. I know this is true because I've been guilty of it most of my life.

Stop thinking and just act! You don't even need words to get your d!ck in the door, just a few look into her eyes and then the balls to do something about it right then and there. But most guys will stew about a woman thinking about how they're going to approach her and the perfect thing they're going to say; so they lose their window of opportunity, which is probably about 2 minutes long.
 

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Have you seen the quality of women out there? I just saw a land whale on facebook telling the world she demands to come home to "I love you" written in candles on the bedroom floor. So jumping through a thousand hoops and dancing like a monkey gets you sex with a 21st century mess that can't even open a can baked beans. Is this the prize? What else do we get in return? It used to be babies (they killed all the babies) so now the return when you consider expenses and the sheer ballache of it all is below nothing
I'm going to be honest, if you are a man past college age, reasonably fit and attractive you are going to have a hard time finding a woman that is truly in your league. I think a major issue now also has to do with the fact that there are so many women out there now that are single moms, with one or more children with possibly multiple fathers. Due to this a substantial portion of young women are just out of the market all together.
 
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Have you seen the quality of women out there? I just saw a land whale on facebook telling the world she demands to come home to "I love you" written in candles on the bedroom floor. So jumping through a thousand hoops and dancing like a monkey gets you sex with a 21st century mess that can't even open a can baked beans. Is this the prize? What else do we get in return? It used to be babies (they killed all the babies) so now the return when you consider expenses and the sheer ballache of it all is below nothing
Truth.

Welcome to the women of the liberal movement. Thats why I just pass on women that do not have the power of submitting in their bones and cannot be feminine.
 

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I think men are having a hard time adjusting to the changing dating landscape dynamic brought on by social media.

Before social media women got their validation from interactions with men in real life. Now they can get that validation fix by posting pics on instagram so they dont even have to interact with random "creepy" dudes.

* This lack of interaction causes a drought for men.

* So now guys are forced to go online to "spit game".

* which causes an over-saturation of thirsty guys feeding a woman's validation addiction.

* which artificially inflates her sense of self worth aka SMV

* which leads her to believe she's entiled to super Chads.

* which causes more droughts for guys less than 8/10

* which leads to them to OLD-maxxing even more

And the cycle continues.

This explains the phenomena of guys who are 7/10 but are Incels, and land-whales who think they're entitled to a 6'3" blond hair blue eyed super Chad.
 
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I think men are having a hard time adjusting to the changing dating landscape dynamic brought on by social media.

Before social media women got their validation from interactions with men in real life. Now they can get that validation fix by posting pics on instagram so they dont even have to interact with random dudes.

* This lack of interaction causes a drought for men.

* So now guys are forced to go online to "spit game".

* which causes on an over-saturation of thirsty guys feeding a woman's validation addiction.

* which artificially inflates her sense of self worth aka SMV

* which leads her to believe she's entiled to super Chads.

* which causes more droughts for guys less than 8/10

* which leads to them to OLD-maxxing even more

And the cycle continues.
The link to this was posted the other day, it's truly mind blowing to say the least.


I've seen legitimately decent/above average men hound dog on ugly women online, not specifically with what I posted above but fairly close lol.
 

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That's common knowledge here. It's because 3% of the men are fvcking 99% of the women. The remaining guys don't get laid or occasionally settle for a girl well-below what they could get if they worked on themselves.

The point of this community is to learn how to be in that 3% of guys.
Be a top CHAD. That's how you get into the top 3%. Oh. too short? Too bad, no pvssy for you. Oh, bone structure not right? Too bad, no pvssy for you either. :mad::mad:
 
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