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Seemingly every avenue to meet single women is completely dominated in numbers by men. What am I supposed to do?

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OP you must realise female social dynamics are a lot different to male

A lot of single males when push comes to shove will go to the coffee shop or bar or whatever else alone to try and make some friends or potential dates because they have nothing to lose

Single females won't , they want a girlfriend or two to come along with them and if nobody is available they would rather stay in

To a single female the world is perceived as a lot more hostile and dangerous

Many do not want to spend a lot of time out on their own and risk getting chatted up by Barry a 38 year old who weighs 280 lbs, works in fintech and becomes extremely offended when someone declines his chat up lines and advances

This is to an extent why online suits the female dating strategy they can quickly filter out all the "Barrys" wit minimal risk to their wellbeing

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The girl i am currently sleeping with , says she doesnt even like going out to straight bars or clubs anymore because so many creeps are hitting on her all the time

She prefers to go to gay bars ( and maybe there is a small clue there for OP )

I don't believe there is a shortage of single women out there there is plenty , however accessing them has probably never been more guarded by society in general

I have said it before and i will say it again ......

You really need to have something about you to succeed in modern dating , wether that be connections , wealth , charisma , confidence , fitness whatever

You need an angle to penetrate

Being an average Joe bloggs just isn't enough anymore
 

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you must realise female social dynamics are a lot different to male

To a single female the world is perceived as a lot more hostile and dangerous

Many do not want to spend a lot of time out on their own and risk getting chatted up by Barry a 38 year old who weighs 280 lbs, works in fintech and becomes extremely offended when someone declines his chat up lines and advances

This is to an extent why online suits the female dating strategy they can quickly filter out all the "Barrys" wit minimal risk to their wellbeing
All of the methods that aren't in-person are suited towards the females. You're right about filtering out "the Barry's". One of the dangers of tech-assisted dating methods is that females start applying the rules they apply on the apps/Instagram to real life. A lot of women are now accustomed to having supreme abundance on apps and expect the real world to match the apps. That's one part of the female entitlement and delusional behaviors that we see. I've had 5.5's and below either reject my offers for dates or "agree and flake" from in-person interactions. Remember that I am a 7 and above their SMV to a significant margin. They only get these delusions of grandeur from having abundance on swipe apps and in their Twitter/Instagram/LinkedIn DMs.

A lot of females are also incapable of processing a daygame approach. The majority of my daygame conversations do not last more than 60 seconds. Most women do not understand the concept of being stopped by someone. They consider it an inconvenience. It can be quite frustrating to have a good opener and have the interaction not last 60 seconds. It's possible that a lot of these women have pre-existing boyfriends and are not looking for new penis. That's why they are short in their interactions. They never mention the boyfriend directly though.

The girl i am currently sleeping with , says she doesnt even like going out to straight bars or clubs anymore because so many creeps are hitting on her all the time

She prefers to go to gay bars ( and maybe there is a small clue there for OP )
Men have been going to gay bars to pick up women for a long time. This is not a new tactic. There's a 4-5 part series on picking up women at gay bars, I have linked Part 1 below.


It's possible to have success from going to gay bars to pick up women but it takes a lot. I think more men would be better off focusing on non-bar approaching or changing up times in which they go to mainly heterosexual bars.

Women who are horny AF and most down for the same night lay won't be in a gay bar. Additionally, phone number flakes are higher in all types of bars than they were 15 years ago.

You need an angle to penetrate. You really need to have something about you to succeed in modern dating , wether that be connections , wealth , charisma , confidence , fitness whatever

Being an average Joe bloggs just isn't enough anymore
It has been decades since being an Average Joe was good enough for a woman. I'd say the Boomers and early X'ers were some of the last to experience this. I agree on needing an angle now.
 

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All of the methods that aren't in-person are suited towards the females. You're right about filtering out "the Barry's". One of the dangers of tech-assisted dating methods is that females start applying the rules they apply on the apps/Instagram to real life. A lot of women are now accustomed to having supreme abundance on apps and expect the real world to match the apps. That's one part of the female entitlement and delusional behaviors that we see. I've had 5.5's and below either reject my offers for dates or "agree and flake" from in-person interactions. Remember that I am a 7 and above their SMV to a significant margin. They only get these delusions of grandeur from having abundance on swipe apps and in their Twitter/Instagram/LinkedIn DMs.

A lot of females are also incapable of processing a daygame approach. The majority of my daygame conversations do not last more than 60 seconds. Most women do not understand the concept of being stopped by someone. They consider it an inconvenience. It can be quite frustrating to have a good opener and have the interaction not last 60 seconds. It's possible that a lot of these women have pre-existing boyfriends and are not looking for new penis. That's why they are short in their interactions. They never mention the boyfriend directly though.
Well yea i think that goes without saying 80% of the threads on this forum centre around some variation of inequality in online dating but theres not a lot any of us can do about it other than not using them

Like most things in modern society they are a quick and low cost / effort solution to a problem and therefore tend to do quite well with the masses

Most dont really care about the intricacies

Women are delusional but mother nature is a harsh teacher and as every year ticks by these girls start to loose men that were previously drooling at their feet

The pressure to stay relevant is enormous for them and i am seeing the consequences first hand on my own social media feeds

Girls who 5-10 years ago were in their prime with thousands of orbiters are now struggling to get 20 likes on a selfie

It's quite amusing to watch
 

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Girls who 5-10 years ago were in their prime with thousands of orbiters are now struggling to get 20 likes on a selfie
That's a marketing problem more than anything. Remember this thread....


A 39 year old mother of two teenagers makes $500,000 per year on OnlyFans. She's well past her prime. Apparently, she knows there are excessive amount of single male simps and sexless married simps.

There are excess single males, which is why the OP made the observation he made to start this thread.
 

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Wow I am curious because it seems ike the whole market has changed. I used to do ok on OLD just on charm and not being a complete loser. That was over 7 years ago and sounds like it's over. Even then OLD was just practice and occasionally getting it wet. I d voted with my feet on Aussie girls. Targeted Asian and EE chicks on every channel. Sounds like the ovary guarding has reached pandemic. If only the top 20% will get laid the first company that can make a sex robot that can cook will be the next Google. Or maybe the Google minge will join the Google nest family.
 

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That's a marketing problem more than anything. Remember this thread....
I think the success of that old woman on onlyfans is a product of being a niche camgirl. You gotta figure, guys that are on there are jacking off to all types of women, and their dopamine receptors get fried, so they start to look at different women to satisfy it. A hot 20 year old is now boring, because the dudes jacked of to so many of them that have the same body types that it is now boring. Enter the older woman for novelty.

Just because she has that success on OF doesn't mean she would have more than 10 likes on her social media pages.
 

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Hi Zimbabwe,
Maybe twenty years ago a guy started a regulart meet and greet in Sydney from memory called Davids Dining Group... http://davidsdinners.org they still have functions the one I attended had only two Guys and maybe eight femmes as you seem reluctant to take up Dancing or trawl up to Newcastle why not give it a bash?
 

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Being an average Joe bloggs just isn't enough anymore
Nor is being a make up plastered Jabba with a drink problem and false eyelashes like broomheads.
Which seems to describe an awful lot of todays girls out on the town.
 

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The girl i am currently sleeping with , says she doesnt even like going out to straight bars or clubs anymore because so many creeps are hitting on her all the time

She prefers to go to gay bars ( and maybe there is a small clue there for OP )

I don't believe there is a shortage of single women out there there is plenty , however accessing them has probably never been more guarded by society in general

I have said it before and i will say it again ......

You really need to have something about you to succeed in modern dating , wether that be connections , wealth , charisma , confidence , fitness whatever

You need an angle to penetrate

Being an average Joe bloggs just isn't enough anymore

There's an approximate number of women and men in the usa. If the average women are too picky and does not chose the average man, than she will be alone.

The average woman going to a gay bar looking for a romantic partner is stupid.

Give it 10 years, and the average woman will wonder where have all the good men gone. They weren't at the gay bar that's for sure.

Mating is about finding a match and not about dissing men. Women forget this.
 

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I went on dating apps. I was overweight at the time and not particularly photogenic.

I had a new date minimum twice a month.

I found the better sites where you have to pay was much better than tinder and the free ones, which were all about looks.

I did, however, spend most evenings messaging. I had maybe a one in 10-15 response rate.

I’d say the responders, one in 3 got to a date. Out of the dates, maybe 1 in 2 got to sechs.

I would add that the moment I gave up PUA game techniques, and presented myself as who I was, the better it got.

You have to accentuate your real strengths.

At first I tried sporty pics and a picture of my nice car/flat. The moment I changed to the real me - a good suit. Blazer and jeans, it changed .

If you can’t pull off bad boy alpha (I can’t), pull off “guy who she would be proud to bring to a party”

OLD gets a bad rap, but as has been established, a lot of guys are here because they don’t know how to talk to women. Especially with written communications, I find this easy.
How tall are you? :rolleyes:
 

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Dance classes are mainly women, yoga classes are mainly women, hospitals are mainly women, pet shelters are mainly women, the list goes on.
Are you trying to say that men should start trying SickMaxxing? :p

BTW, I remember reading about PetShelterGame, so I started to visit off-and-on pretending I was looking to adopt a stray. I think I was the lightest human there. :mad:
 

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I feel your pain. In Darwin, historically demographically, there has always been more Men than Women (which goes against the National Demographic), most likely due to Male focused industries such as the Armed Forces and Mining.

Go to a Pub / Club on a busy night between Thursday - Sunday, and the ratio would be Men 55%, Women 45%.

However, it got way WORSE when the American Marines began to be stationed in Darwin. When they were on leave, and hit the town, they would flood the local main street of Darwin where the Bars are, and it would turn into a horrendous C!ck-Fest. I saw my favourite bar turn into 90% men, and10% women. I HATED it, when they were in town. I found them weird in a queer sense also, as they would all dance together.

As an aside, has the American Marines reduced or eliminated any physical restrictions upon enlistment? A vast majority of them I designate as Triple M's... Mexican Midget Marines. Most of them are tiny, and I'm not hugely tall, I'm 5'11". After a few drinks, I've been tempted to drop a smart-arse Star Wars quote to them: "Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper"? :rofl:
Darwin sounds horrifically Darwinian.
 

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This has always been the case. You have to ignore the other guys and have a higher estimation of yourself. Most men on the scene are npcs - non playable characters. They likely have the same insecurities, fears, inadequacies about measuring up as such they are beaten long before they even start. In this environment someone who knows what they are doing can easily thrive.

There waa a point in my young adult life I had these fears too. I laughed myself silly when I realized it was completely unfounded. The % of people who know what they are doing is small, this also includes guys you may think clean up with women. There are many who only look the part keep that in mind.
 

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Im willing to bet you have no social networks to meet women through. And when i say social networks, im not talking about the stuff that guys parrot on the internet for you to "do". Im talking about the way people actually meet - acquaintances who simply invite their male and female acquaintances to social gatherings, you being one of those invited.

Am i right?
I remember having some social circles like this; every available woman was either a single mommy, or shaped like a beach ball. :mad:
 

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College campuses and malls are much better places to be.

You have to be better than all of the other guys out there. Being in the top 50% is easy since many dudes out there are porn and video game addicted messes with no game. Being in the top 10% is really hard.
... and impossible if < 5' 6" :mad:
 

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