"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Saw A Girl At A Party, Felt I Got Some Eye Contact, Sort of Danced With Her,...

Juan_Man

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Never Exchange Words With Her, But I Found Her Facebook (she's single)

What's my next step?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I.A.F.Y.B.

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1. Your sort of danced with her? What does this exactly mean?

2. Just because her facebook says single. Doesn't mean she really is...

3. You made some eye contact. Didn't exchange words but, sort of danced. Well, depending on your situation. You could send her a message on facebook saying "hey remember me from that party?" "You seem like a fun girl, maybe even fun enough for me." "We should get together sometime." Just take it from there.
 

HolyG

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He has 889 posts.


Eight hundred and eighty nine.


It's sad to see how little this boards helps some people.


Look man, go read the DJ bible. just go. now. you need to do a complete 180 and straighten yourself up.
 

Juan_Man

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I.A.F.Y.B. said:
1. Your sort of danced with her? What does this exactly mean?

2. Just because her facebook says single. Doesn't mean she really is...

3. You made some eye contact. Didn't exchange words but, sort of danced. Well, depending on your situation. You could send her a message on facebook saying "hey remember me from that party?" "You seem like a fun girl, maybe even fun enough for me." "We should get together sometime." Just take it from there.
1. By "sort of danced with her", I meant that I cuffed arms with her three times and did a little "merry-go-round" dance with her in the style of a square dance. No grind session, though.

2. I know she's single because she said so when she was participating in one of the dance contests.

3. I wanted to send her a message that says something like, "I saw you at the party the other day. I wanted to talked to you, but I couldn't find the best time." But I'm a little worried that this might be too stalkerish. I could have approached her after the party ended when she was behind me as we were both walking toward the parking lot but I felt the approach might appear too sketchy AND she was talking to someone on her cell. I would like to see her in person again but I don't know when that day will come.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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marinetti

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i think you missed your chance. go for it, by all means, but there's no real connection here, and by implying that you felt like there was, you're probably going to chase her away.

next time, approach!!!! facebook messages are not approaches!!!

and there are no "best times" to talk to someone. just go over and talk to her. approaching is hard, and one of the first challenges we all face is getting used to them. start getting used to them so this never happens again.
 
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