"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Question-who is more attractive?

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Purely a "just because I'm curious" question here. Who in your opinion is more attractive between the two girls listed here? And rating on each?

Girl 1?

http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=KMRYHRHEAL&key=JUG

Or Girl 2?

http://media.photobucket.com/image/summer walker/RJJOHNSON1965/SCRAP%20PHOTOS/462c.jpg

I ask this because my buddy and I were discussing today men's preference for skinny petite girls compared to curvier women. We disagreed and I wanted to see what the consensus is here.

In edit and to be fair. The first girl is a regular everyday girl, no heavy makeup, no professional photo, and no photoshop. The 2nd girl is a model and has the full "makeover' that they get in a professional photo shoot. Couldn't find a pic of a regular curvier girl that we all could agree was attractive, so used the pro.
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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skinny guys would probably prefer the thnner one

its good that poeple have different preferances

people on SS type sites often have have some delusional preferance for the cliche hot dolly blonde.

cordoncordon said:
I ask this because my buddy and I were discussing today men's preference for skinny petite girls compared to curvier women. We disagreed and I wanted to see what the consensus is here.
what was the disagrement
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You want me to tell your friend witch one he want to eat?


please.....
 

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Sandow said:
Not an option. I tried to pick 2 girls that represent both sides of the coin and that almost anyone at the very least can say is "attractive".
 

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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man I'm surprised at the responses. I prefer 2...she's like a 9.5 to me. Maybe it's because I'm black...
 

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Maxtro said:
Well, lets not forget that the first girl is a regular everyday girl, not made up, no airbrush etc.

The 2nd girl is a professional model with makeup, airbrush, etc.

Just trying to make things fair. Tried to find a regular girl pic of a curvier girl that everyone could agree was attractive, but had no luck, so used her.
 

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bish0p said:
man I'm surprised at the responses. I prefer 2...she's like a 9.5 to me. Maybe it's because I'm black...
That would seem to fit the stereotype.
 

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My apologies then. Though in some of Summer's pictures I think she is overly airbrushed and makes her actually look worse.

If you want me to remove the links just ask.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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CuriousGirl said:
I'd say a cross between the two.

Why are you trying so hard to fit into a site that is FOR guys, ABOUT guys, and BY guys???

You are a a 19 year old girl........nobody is interested in your opinion in this thread, or any other thread.
 

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Maxtro said:
My apologies then. Though in some of Summer's pictures I think she is overly airbrushed and makes her actually look worse.

If you want me to remove the links just ask.
No it's fine. I happen to think that first girl is a 9.5, (hot hot HOT) so we'll give the other girl a little bit of an advantage with the modeling pics. :)
 
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cordoncordon said:
Well, lets not forget that the first girl is a regular everyday girl, not made up, no airbrush etc.

The 2nd girl is a professional model with makeup, airbrush, etc.

Just trying to make things fair. Tried to find a regular girl pic of a curvier girl that everyone could agree was attractive, but had no luck, so used her.

A girl is more feminine and more attractive by default when she puts on makeup and TRIES to look good.......that is the feminine nature.

A girl with "no makeup who is "natural" and "not really trying"" is less attractive automatically.

This is why I would prefer a girl with good makeup, wearing high heels, with a tan and nice tight clothing over a sporty pale girl in sweatpants.

I, unlike some of you, am still attracted to FEMININE women more than any other kind.
 

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Rescue Mission said:
A girl is more feminine and more attractive by default when she puts on makeup and TRIES to look good.......that is the feminine nature.

A girl with "no makeup who is "natural" and "not really trying"" is less attractive automatically.

This is why I would prefer a girl with good makeup, wearing high heels, with a tan and nice tight clothing over a sporty pale girl in sweatpants.

I, unlike some of you, am still attracted to FEMININE women more than any other kind.
I think you may be overanalyzing. I'm sure we can all agree we like a women who presents herself well. The first girl looks really feminine to me, and Im sure she has on some makeup. She just happens to be a regular everyday girl wearing a bathing suit in a regular everyday photo, as to the 2nd girl who is more made up and has a professional photo shoot.
 

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Rescue Mission said:
A girl is more feminine and more attractive by default when she puts on makeup and TRIES to look good.......that is the feminine nature.

A girl with "no makeup who is "natural" and "not really trying"" is less attractive automatically.

This is why I would prefer a girl with good makeup, wearing high heels, with a tan and nice tight clothing over a sporty pale girl in sweatpants.

I, unlike some of you, am still attracted to FEMININE women more than any other kind.
+1. I've been getting my new girl to tan more often, wear a little more make up, and dress a little sluttier. She does now without me even having to ask.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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