"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Powersurgeon

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Would you date a 36 yo divorced woman (divorced because she cheated), with 3 kids, that sees her ex on a daily basis (because of the kids) seeking for a LTR?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Dear PowerSurgeon,
The biggest problem is the three Kids...If she ticked my boxes,I would certainly enjoy her company on a regular basis,but only as a Plate,never let a Woman like that get her feet under your table!
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Willard

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If you mean date as in a serious relationship, probably not, but as a FWB sure I would. I'm seeing a 33yo old with 3 younger kids, I haven't even asked about what the deal is with her ex, because I don't care, I just want her as a FWB.
 
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she'd have to be a "Salt" , like Angie played in that movie and such a woman would never have 3 kids (of her own).
 

glass half full

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Hell no. Unless you just want to pound it once. No investment either. And go Ghost.
 

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Plus, you're only 35. Why are you bothering with any 36 year old in the first place, let alone one with so many potential headaches?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I don't date women with more than one kid. If she decided to have more than one kid, she should've made it work with the guy she had the last kid with. If you're going to start a family, fvcking stick to it. Thinking you can still party with any guy you want AND raise a family is foolish thinking. The bytch should've seen it through.

If her kids are all in their mid teens or older, that's a different story since the kids have their own lives. Otherwise, HELL NO.
 

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The women in question is my ex. I am trying to figure out her new boyfriend. How come a 42 yo, divorced, with adult sons will get involved with a biatch like my ex.
 

grayclif

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Powersurgeon - for whatever reason he likes her. I have a plate who is 35 yo with three kids. She absolutely fantastic. Been on and off with her for two years snd I've never met the kids.
 

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Powersurgeon said:
The women in question is my ex. I am trying to figure out her new boyfriend. How come a 42 yo, divorced, with adult sons will get involved with a biatch like my ex.
Because all he sees is her good side and a ton of sex. My ex did the same thing. It is in their nature to work as hard as they can to lock down the best man they can.

Now instead of figuring it out, you should be fighting your own fight. How about you forget about her and focus on what you want?
 

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My only worry is that for me is not normal that a guy with the above caractheristics is so eager to know my 6 yo daughter and my 4 yo male twins. Or he is a total AFC or a pedophile.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Albatross953

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I'm telling you it is normal. The wife moves on and pays no penalty for past behavior. Some guys will reject because she has kids but most won't.

I get the worry, and I'd never make light of the concern. But you have very little you can do. Just see the kids a lot, know what goes on. I would also suggest meeting the guy if you're that worried.

I wish I had more to suggest. You're unlikely to dictate the pace of introduction to the ex. I couldn't.
 

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I'd use her for sex, but bail when she wanted me to "marry up" and help her raise her kids..... She could CALL it dating if she wanted to
 

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Powersurgeon said:
My only worry is that for me is not normal that a guy with the above caractheristics is so eager to know my 6 yo daughter and my 4 yo male twins. Or he is a total AFC or a pedophile.
Oh Good Lord.

We are headed down the same toilet that Rome flushed itself down.

Take care of your kids, guy. Geez I just don't get it. You OR your wife. Why put your kids through that sh*t. And you're far from alone.
 

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Speed dawg all due respect but what exactly is he supposed to do differently? He said his wife cheated. She's introducing the kids to a new guy. What control does he have?

If he does everything perfectly he might get an equal legal footing. But I don't see any recourse for him or me or anyone else.

If you specific actions he can take, please let us know.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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