Post wall 35 and up men dating 18-23 yo olds. How do you do it?

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dude, you would be mind blown how many younger girls will ONLY date older guys. I meet some of them through online dating that's the easy way, but then a great number that I can just meet out and about. The key is you have to be hanging out at the bar/place that is in your age range also. I can't go to a college bar or Justin Bieber concert and meet college girls, but if a college girl is at an upscale place where I hang out or something similar, Of course it's not a problem. It helps that I look younger workout In-Shape etcetera it also helps that most guys and their age range have almost nothing going from, no plan no wealth and no attitude to change either that. You can be broke as a joke and young but if you have determination and will the girl will see it and she will want you for it.
The youngest that's hit me up more recently is 18. Fellas, check ID. I am far to pretty for jail lol.

Guys don't approach. You can't change facial aesthetic, hheight, penor size lol

Control variables you can. Learn game. Stack paper.DDate hot and young.


Women today are disgusting. I never go down on girls ever. They are gross. AMS was saying that very thing.

Since so few guys got game and most men are cucks and low testosterone, any guy who can turn on the charm can crush.
Most never put the time in. They dabble.


Today, we got married dating coaches. Never approach but they preach. Many of them were long since married before even MySpace lol. They marry post wall or epiphany phase after the carousel. Cratered SMV hits and run material and guys call it wife.
 
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problem is young girls are as superficial as us guys, so unless she's got massive daddy issues, she needs to find you very physically attractive, so you better be damn handsome if you're old and trying to bang hot teens
(game, resources etc less of an issue. You can have those things, but if she isn't physically attracted, you need to approach the next girl until get a bite lol)
 

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18-20yo chicks will and do fvck "old dudes"
they dont want a relationship
they want an experience

give it to them
 

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Control variables you can. Learn game. Stack paper.DDate hot and young.
WHen you say 'learn game', you mean basically learn to have the balls to escalate on girls who are into you? i.e - as far as i'm aware, you don't believe in 'game' being some black magic where you know the secret words and techniques to force attraction in any girl you want. YOu believe in more of the 'numbers game' aspect? (in which case LEARN game always seems like a weird way of putting it to me lol)
 
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learning game is a strange concept since, as you will often read, ''what you say doesn't matter'
So there's nothing to actually learn (other than things like being able to hold eye contact which will only need to be 'learnt' if you have some pretty advanced autism)
 

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I'm 32 and haven't been on a date with a women over 24 for 2 years. That said I do lie about my age when necessary
 

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I have not forgotten about this thread, nor about my other thread about making the most of my time. I'm basically finished with my fun experiment and will be sharing my experiences and thoughts when I have time in front of a computer and not at work.
 

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What is there to learn? How not to convince her not to f you.
 

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Mainly you imagine it in your head and then post what you think should be happening in your life on SS :)

Men 35-40 are about at their peak in the eyes of most women. Nearly all pin ups are of this age and always have been. Where was brad pit and clooney et al at 22?

18-23 is still just too young if you’re 38. It looks stupid. They are literally like children mentally.

About 15 years is about max I’d say. I did actually go on a date with a 21 yo when I was 36 and after hearing her for a bit I decided I just couldn’t hack it. How could I invest any time in her when she’s on about gap tearing and her mates who are literally bedroom DJs and finishing exams?

My wife’s 11 years younger and I went out with her friends and felt a total douche. The club was all kids and I felt stupid trying to dad dance with them.

Remember how you viewed the random 38 year old sniffing around your girl mates when young? People used to laugh at them as creeps. If you’re really hot property (and I’m talking millionaire and look a lot younger) then good for you. For most men in late 30s, 25 is about right. Younger, say, 20, is a struggle for all concerned.

Sure for ONS type stuff, good good.
 
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WHen you say 'learn game', you mean basically learn to have the balls to escalate on girls who are into you? i.e - as far as i'm aware, you don't believe in 'game' being some black magic where you know the secret words and techniques to force attraction in any girl you want. YOu believe in more of the 'numbers game' aspect? (in which case LEARN game always seems like a weird way of putting it to me lol)

If you have a hard time being sexual with women, game is not something you need to learn. Masculinity is what you need to learn.

For a masculine guy, it's all natural and innate. There is nothing to learn.
 

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learning game is a strange concept since, as you will often read, ''what you say doesn't matter'
So there's nothing to actually learn (other than things like being able to hold eye contact which will only need to be 'learnt' if you have some pretty advanced autism)
everyone defines 'game' differently nowadays.
 

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everyone defines 'game' differently nowadays.
If you spent 5 years learning "game," during that 5th year you would discover that the past 4 years, you were just learning how not to fvck things up with women that were already attracted to you.

You can also spend those 5 years working on making money, your purpose, fitness, and creating a life for yourself. The end result would be the same. You will stop fvcking up with women already interested in you because you have a baseline level of self-esteem.

While the end results are similar, those two guys are worlds apart. One is a naturally high value man with a bulletproof frame. The other is a guy with no life accomplishments to show for it. He might have learned how to be "cool" around women, but it's like first grade level stuff. It's an accomplishment only autistic guys can be proud of.

Guys who preach game like it's the ultimate panacea are simply projecting their own autism. For normal guys, interacting with women is no big deal. And not fvcking things up with interested women is not something worth bragging about.
 

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any guy who can turn on the charm can crush.Most never put the time in. They dabble.
Can you explain this? How does a guy “turn on the charm” and “put the time in?”

You said before you were 6’1. A shorter guy would have to have a lot of stacked paper and a lot of game to even begin to compete with you.
 
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Mainly you imagine it in your head and then post what you think should be happening in your life on SS :)

Men 35-40 are about at their peak in the eyes of most women. Nearly all pin ups are of this age and always have been. Where was brad pit and clooney et al at 22?

18-23 is still just too young if you’re 38. It looks stupid. They are literally like children mentally.

About 15 years is about max I’d say. I did actually go on a date with a 21 yo when I was 36 and after hearing her for a bit I decided I just couldn’t hack it. How could I invest any time in her when she’s on about gap tearing and her mates who are literally bedroom DJs and finishing exams?

My wife’s 11 years younger and I went out with her friends and felt a total douche. The club was all kids and I felt stupid trying to dad dance with them.

Remember how you viewed the random 38 year old sniffing around your girl mates when young? People used to laugh at them as creeps. If you’re really hot property (and I’m talking millionaire and look a lot younger) then good for you. For most men in late 30s, 25 is about right. Younger, say, 20, is a struggle for all concerned.

Sure for ONS type stuff, good good.
Tonight at dinner there was tons of hot chicks working at the restaurant I'd say ages 16 to 22. Of course I was checking them out. They were HB9s too. I'd totally plow that. Well if legal age of course. Then here I am trying to get 42 year old high end HBs.
 

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How does a post wall man of 35+ wind up breaking the cherry of 18-23 yo HB anti-social circles?

Men older than 35 are not post-wall, they are just starting to peak in SMV. Next question?
 

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AHHHH! I see you are banned now. Good riddance troll!
 

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How does a post wall man of 35+ wind up breaking the cherry of 18-23 yo HB anti-social circles?
There's no "wall" for men.

At my 35+ years old age I am a most confident, a most accomplished, a most successful, a most resourceful, a most dangerous man in my life.

Why would a girl chose some loser who's 10 times dumber, 10 times sloppier, and making 10 times less than me?
Only if I wouldn't be able to present myself and get past her shyness.

Moreover, 18-23 years old girls do not know how to use make up yet, don't know how to behave, and they're are approaching their prime at 23-25 years. So 18-23 group is EASIER if you know how to game them. Past 25 -- their beauty and psyche starts to decline, as worthy ones get in LTR, and unworthy ones (psychological problems, overweight etc.).

18-23 is EASIER.
Just figure out how to game them.
 
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