"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Poor quality Western diet kills sperm count and lowers male testosterone, study says

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I say this with brotherly love of course but -- Get your collective fat asses off the couch, ditch your dumb as f*uck video games, put down the chips, beer, pizza, and ice cream and get out and MOVE!

Poor quality Western diet kills sperm count and lowers male testosterone, study says

hmmm, no.


lol serious as long you don't go overboard and take care of yourself you can eat or drink anything, problem is, if someone epend the whole day eating fried chicken watching tv, having lol sperm count and testoterone is the least of his problems
 

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hmmm, no.


lol serious as long you don't go overboard and take care of yourself you can eat or drink anything, problem is, if someone epend the whole day eating fried chicken watching tv, having lol sperm count and testoterone is the least of his problems
Depends what your goals are. Do you want to look muscular, lean, and shredded or have a dad bod? Diet is just as important if not more than exercise. Living on beer and pizza isn't going to result in the look you want--guaranteed--unless you're a skinny 16 year old which I assume you're not.

I'm sure you've checked out this recent thread, I gave some pretty specific diet advice: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...ompletely-optiona.264477/page-36#post-2717306
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Intermittent fasting helps.

 

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Couldn’t agree more about diet. I’ve got to where if I eat crap food I feel like crap for a couple days. Just the desire not to feel like that alone keeps me eating right.
 

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Milk and sitting... Every meal with milk is like a kick in the nuts. If someone is interested and understands german, pm and I send you a book about testosterone optimized diet
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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What do you want us to do OP? Go out and hunt wild boars with Rocks like we used to?
It would be more productive and beneficial than playing Warcraft for 4 hours at a time and plowing through bags of Cheetos in the process.

And who needs rocks to hunt boar? Don't you have hands??
 

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It would be more productive and beneficial than playing Warcraft for 4 hours at a time and plowing through bags of Cheetos in the process.

And who needs rocks to hunt boar? Don't you have hands??
Bro I’m so alpha I don’t even need that, I just stare at them and they know to die. Alpha bro.

Alpha.
 

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Processed food is poison. Just the chemicals in the packaging of fast food are enough to make you fat.

Learn to cook. Eat simple foods. If you can't pronounce it, you probably shouldnt eat it. Find your local farmers market, try to figure out if they grow what they sell. Some local small farms offer a monthly share deal where you get a periodic basket of their crops. Eating in season crops from a local farm will be higher quality than what you find in the grocery store. Eggs are a good example. Grocery store eggs seem like junk after you've had farm eggs.
 

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Thought I posted this but I guess I didn’t lol:

Broccoli everyday for me. I have snacks sometimes if I want the calories but my core meal is always broccoli, chicken, and sweet potatoes. Tried rice for a bit, was fine but sweet potatoes are bomb. I try to stay away from breaded stuff but it’s in damn near everything. Plus, broccoli and chicken gets old after a while. Gonna try switching to beef I think. Everyone who lifts consistently who’s done both says that beef is better for some reason, particularly for strength.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Thought I posted this but I guess I didn’t lol:

Broccoli everyday for me. I have snacks sometimes if I want the calories but my core meal is always broccoli, chicken, and sweet potatoes. Tried rice for a bit, was fine but sweet potatoes are bomb. I try to stay away from breaded stuff but it’s in damn near everything. Plus, broccoli and chicken gets old after a while. Gonna try switching to beef I think. Everyone who lifts consistently who’s done both says that beef is better for some reason, particularly for strength.
Way more carbs with beef. I tried just eating chicken and rice before but it was too low in carbs and fat for me personally. I lost too much weight. It would of worked if I was only dieting and not working out consistently, but when you throw in cardio and strength training, it's just not enough to maintain good size

If I remember correctly, you go for the super lean cut look right, so you're probably good either way ig
 

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Way more carbs with beef. I tried just eating chicken and rice before but it was too low in carbs and fat for me personally. I lost too much weight. It would of worked if I was only dieting and not working out consistently, but when you throw in cardio and strength training, it's just not enough to maintain good size

If I remember correctly, you go for the super lean cut look right, so you're probably good either way ig
I mean honestly I just try to eat healthy, it’s not so much me aiming for a more lean or less lean look. If I wanted to lean down, I’d just not eat for a day or two and then I’d get shredded. I more or less do that anyway tho just via fasting. I don’t really do cardio anymore tho (last few months anyway) just bc it got snowy up here for a while, and while I normally don’t really give a damn about snow, it kept getting warm enough to melt so **** would get all mushy, but then get super cold again to where it’s icy in which case you slip if you run. I should get back to it now that I think about it...
 

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I mean honestly I just try to eat healthy, it’s not so much me aiming for a more lean or less lean look. If I wanted to lean down, I’d just not eat for a day or two and then I’d get shredded. I more or less do that anyway tho just via fasting. I don’t really do cardio anymore tho (last few months anyway) just bc it got snowy up here for a while, and while I normally don’t really give a damn about snow, it kept getting warm enough to melt so **** would get all mushy, but then get super cold again to where it’s icy in which case you slip if you run. I should get back to it now that I think about it...
Do you do intermittent fasting or do you always go a full day or two
 

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Do you do intermittent fasting or do you always go a full day or two
Well before I’d just not eat for like a full 24 hours (most I’ve ever gone is 38 hrs). But I structured all my classes to be only on Tuesday and Thursday this semester. Because of this, I’m there all day on those days and all my classes are back-to-back-to-back, so there’s no time for me to eat really. So, I just say **** it. I eat when I get home tho. Commute time is typically about an hour each trip (+/- 20 min. ). Those days I consider it IF, but I’m not eating for 22-23 hours, sometimes more. I typically don’t drink water on those days either until a little bit before I eat (usually when I’m waiting for my food to be done cooking).
 
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