VikingKing
Banned
What kind of openers do you guys use on pof?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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- Thread starter VikingKing
- Start date
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
VikingKing
Banned
And do you put your intent as "dating put nothing serious"?
Peaks&Valleys
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Noob,
Zarky is sure to comment on this thread in the matter of moments, he'll give some "good advice".
Many people have a love/hate with POF, other people flat out despise it. I compare it to rolling out to a seedy dive bar at 1:30AM and picking up on the rejects.
My strategy is a little different when it comes to online dating. First of all, I now stay away from POF. But I don't knock people who are on it, it is what it is. It's a good source for getting laid, if you're willing to lower your standards. Yes, you will have to. What's a 6 IRL, will be treated like an 8 or a 9 on POF...so....be ready for that.
My strategy was to read (or skim over) a profile, find something that sticks out, could be something she said or a picture, and make a comment about it. The key is to say something that induces a response. Something witty or funny always helps....
That's it. Once you peak her interest, I'd usually like to wait for them to offer their number. There's so many guys offering their's that they may appreciate a guy who's not throwing their's out there. (my 2 cents)
You'll hear a lot about cut & paste, it works for some, but with that strategy the quality will considerable drop lower than it already is.
So, my advice, no canned opener. Invest some time in actually reading the profile and it may actually produce some results. Good luck.
Zarky is sure to comment on this thread in the matter of moments, he'll give some "good advice".
Many people have a love/hate with POF, other people flat out despise it. I compare it to rolling out to a seedy dive bar at 1:30AM and picking up on the rejects.
My strategy is a little different when it comes to online dating. First of all, I now stay away from POF. But I don't knock people who are on it, it is what it is. It's a good source for getting laid, if you're willing to lower your standards. Yes, you will have to. What's a 6 IRL, will be treated like an 8 or a 9 on POF...so....be ready for that.
My strategy was to read (or skim over) a profile, find something that sticks out, could be something she said or a picture, and make a comment about it. The key is to say something that induces a response. Something witty or funny always helps....
That's it. Once you peak her interest, I'd usually like to wait for them to offer their number. There's so many guys offering their's that they may appreciate a guy who's not throwing their's out there. (my 2 cents)
You'll hear a lot about cut & paste, it works for some, but with that strategy the quality will considerable drop lower than it already is.
So, my advice, no canned opener. Invest some time in actually reading the profile and it may actually produce some results. Good luck.
bukowski_merit
Master Don Juan
In order of importance:
1. Pics
2. What you say in your profile.
3. #s (like height, income)
4. Your opening email...
Focus on 1 & 2 and you wont have to worry about your opener. When you can just send a wink face to a woman and consistently get responses - you know 1&2 are locked down.
Field tested x 100
1. Pics
2. What you say in your profile.
3. #s (like height, income)
4. Your opening email...
Focus on 1 & 2 and you wont have to worry about your opener. When you can just send a wink face to a woman and consistently get responses - you know 1&2 are locked down.
Field tested x 100
Uncharted
Master Don Juan
I agree. It's all about how good looking you are. Much more so than in real life. If you say something "witty" you may get a response. I probably get a 30% response just saying Hello back. Then from there a 30% number pull. Then from there a 40% non-flake for a date.
It's a numbers game like anything else but the numbers are stacked against you.
Find girls in real life. Much easier, less headache, easier to show your confidence in person than through an e-mail.
It's a numbers game like anything else but the numbers are stacked against you.
Find girls in real life. Much easier, less headache, easier to show your confidence in person than through an e-mail.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Solomon
Master Don Juan
Uncharted said:
^^So much this
Kudos to anyone who can get the type of women they want thru online dating and bang them. I couldn't, I'm working on losing some belly fat right now and will be hitting the field hard again
I have buddies who killed it on POF they are good looking guys tho. Then I have buddies who still keep trying and are frusated with the low quality skanks they meet. It's honestly subjective to everyone
But for most guy's online dating just doesn't yield fruitfull results. I have no problem admitting that for me it didn't. At one point my flake rate was 90% on POF
Uncharted
Master Don Juan
Don't expect a relationship either. All of the girls I've met using online dating have some kind of issue - that's why they're not meeting/keeping men in real life.
VikingKing
Banned
Well I'm a wasp, I'm 6'1'', 170lbs, athletic, about 7 to 8% body fat. I couldn't get fat If I tried. I look very much norwegian and swedish decent.
I don't have a car but i live in the downtown area of my city ( which is small). From my understanding its a numbers game, and you can just say "Hay whats up".
I don't have a car but i live in the downtown area of my city ( which is small). From my understanding its a numbers game, and you can just say "Hay whats up".
And this topic has been talked about 1 zillion times, so I'll let the OP DAFS on it."I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
GS750
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This is accurate. I don't use POF anymore. I use Match. But as far as the opener I just find something in her profile or pictures and ask a simple question. That way she knows you at least read the profile. She will then go to your profile and if she thinks you're good looking enough she'll respond. So you're opener can be lame as hell if you're good looking. If you're not at least somewhat good looking and over 5'10" online dating is going to be a major disappointment. Even the fuglies will ignore you. I've had some success, but I know its because of my pics, my height, and my income. Girls on online dating sites are shallow as hell.bukowski_merit said:
VikingKing
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GS750 said:
Is match free? there is no fvcking chance in the world that I would ever, ever pay for a dating website. I think if you pay for a dating site, your out of your mind.
VikingKing
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To me these dating sites are practice. I may or may not get some puss out of it. My intention is to see the reaction, not to close.
GS750
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No its not free. There's pros and cons I guess. But those free sites are littered with fake profiles. I've found Pof and Okcupid to be a complete waste of time. But that's just me. If anything, online dating gets you used to rejection. There's lots of that haha.
Solomon
Master Don Juan
GS750 said:
^^This is why a lot of guys are frustrated with online dating. Even if your profile is written eloquently, even if your game is top notch none of this matters if the girl doesn't find you attractive or you're not good looking.
I always lol at guys on here who claim to be good looking but don't get any response on POF and act upset. The truth is if you're as good looking as you think you are women will hit you up first online!
Here are some pics someof my buddies who do super good on POF and Ok
WOW
Attaboy
Nice POF slut he banged
I got another buddy who is jacked as shyt and he only games rich old white ladies and gets money
When I read these guys profile it's less than a paragraph but their inbox are filled with women who are DTF,
Not bitter just the reality brahs.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
VikingKing
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If it cost you more than 5 bucks, its a waste.GS750 said:
You know what cost you 5 bucks or less, paying for her coffee.
Stort_Brød
Senior Don Juan
haha just had a date with a 31year old (im 22) from pof... she aint bad for a quick one but they deffo arent keepers on there. so if you are after a root go for it. if you want a ltr pay for it.
I'm always surprised at the level of fussiness of some women on POF. You'd think some of them would consider themselves lucky to be considered a notch on someone's bedpost...
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?sld=1&profile_id=56996524
P.S - to whoever was trying to hack into my account - did you think my password would be 'password'? lol
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?sld=1&profile_id=56996524
P.S - to whoever was trying to hack into my account - did you think my password would be 'password'? lol
hockeyfreak79
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POF is the WALMART of on-line dating.
Get IT on the cheap, just don't expect the quality to be there.
Get IT on the cheap, just don't expect the quality to be there.
You want to see sites that are a full step down from POF?
Try datehookup.com, and try the following phone apps: Skout & Blendr. They make POF look like the VIP section of a Hollywood club after the Oscars.
Try datehookup.com, and try the following phone apps: Skout & Blendr. They make POF look like the VIP section of a Hollywood club after the Oscars.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.