Plinco
Master Don Juan
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@BackInTheGame78 I see you're on this forum quite a bit. I'd like to see you entertain me again. Living this place up if that's your fancy.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
You didn't really apply the advice though. Where are you establishing a group and showing camaraderie with them? Where are you demonstrating high value behavior with people in the venue? Where are you establishing relationships with key people (promoter, etc.)? Are you actually making an effort to building relationships with people outside of the nightclub scene?When I'm out, I've applied the whole social proof thing, but sometimes I don't feel like I must socialize, like I know that I don't have to prove anything. In other words, I feel confident in my own skin that I don't have to pretend to be liked. I like talking to people, but it's optional, and sometimes I like to take a step back and observe what other people do. Of course I like dancing too.
To some degree, yes, two guys, and acquaintances from them I was getting to know. That night however they didn't show. I got there a little bit later and didn't catch the vibes that were already building so I was vibing at a different level. I went in to self-assured observation mode. I left early that night, after one hour of the dance class portion of the night, because I planned on saving my sleep for Friday night, which didn't happen because I keep getting too tired for sleep to go out on Friday nights.You didn't really apply the advice though. Where are you establishing a group and showing camaraderie with them?
I have no idea on how to demonstrate high value behavior other than being authentic. My thoughts are generally pretty disconnected from other people.Where are you demonstrating high value behavior with people in the venue?
I've done this a very small, little bit, but not at all recently. I don't know what to say to these people.Where are you establishing relationships with key people (promoter, etc.)?
The four places I go besides this nightclub are being out and about where I occasionally approach people (so far this has never resulted in any meaningful relationship), my business (not conducive for that kind of relationship), my Muay Thai gym (I go in the mornings, older people there), and my weightlifting gym (@BPH had suggested would be a good place to meet people). I went to a meetup group a couple of times of 20/30 somethings; and I think that might work too. I don't want to do any more places because it will put too much on my plate.Are you actually making an effort to building relationships with people outside of the nightclub scene?
To clarify, is that 35 to 40 approaches per night?Appreciate you posting the metrics. @SW15 would’ve pointed out the numbers in the past so I’ll do it now since he’s out…
Imo you should approach more.
96 cold approaches / 27 nights out = 3.55 average approaches a night, so we’ll round up and say 4 approaches a night on average.
You need a big city & more volume. For me, I’ve had to get into the mid 30s to early 40s to pull, & other wings I’ve gamed with had the same experience. When you up the volume it’s more statistically likely you’ll pull.
Just my $.02
I'm a weird dude that can think in both ways at the same time. My best friend and my closest family gave up trying to figure me out a long time ago.Have you tried not being rigidly analytical, and instead just having fun and vibing without any agenda?
Perhaps the only agenda: when the opportunity is there, catch it. And when a woman is staying in the conversation, engaged and having fun, lead forward in the "mating process". But not in a needy way. Let some space in.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
Use this structure = open > small banter > soft close > hard closeI actually got a match on Hinge. My texting game is terrible so I want to run it by here
"Great and kicking some grass"
"What's your very favorite part of your day and why"
I appreciate it thank you. I implicitly used something close to this technique when I used swipe apps a decade ago. One big change I've noticed, is that back then people wouldn't double text, they would write their response in one message, whereas zoomers will write out their responses in broken form, like multiple, single sentence responses.Use this structure = open > small banter > soft close > hard close
Open:
Starts the conversation in a simple, contextual way related to the interaction, her profile or something you talked about before. The goal is just to get engagement. If she responds normally and engages, that’s green light. If she replies but it’s short or delayed, that’s yellow light. If she ignores you or gives a cold response, that’s red light.
Example:
“Hey gorgeous, how’s your week going so far?”
Small banter:
This is where you build a little interaction before jumping into logistics. Joke, tease, or react to what she said. The goal is to see if she invests back. If she’s replying quickly and playing along, that’s green. If she responds but without much energy, that’s yellow/light. If she becomes dry or disengaged, that’s red.
Example:
Her: “Yeah I’ve been studying all day for exams.”
You: “That sounds rough. You’re definitely overdue for a break.”
Soft close:
This is where you test the waters before asking her out directly. A soft close is basically giving a hint that meeting up is coming. One of the important things is that a soft close signals what’s coming next, in which she starts anticipating the hard close. This makes the transition smoother and provides a cushion for it.
Example:
“You should take a break from all that studying and grab a drink with a fun guy.”
If she responds positively, that’s green.
Example: “Haha yeah that actually sounds nice.”
If she gives a mild objection, that’s yellow/light.
Example: “I’ve been really busy lately though.”
If she rejects the idea or pulls away, that’s red.
Example: “I don’t really meet people like that.”
Hard close:
Once you get a green, you move to logistics. Suggest a specific day or plan. Because the soft close already introduced the idea of meeting, the hard close feels natural instead of abrupt. If she cooperates with scheduling, that stays green. If she hesitates or stalls, it can drop to yellow/light, meaning you might need a bit more interaction before trying again.
Example:
“I’m busy most of the week but Thursday evening works. We can grab a drink and give you a proper break from those classes.”
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Be careful what you use to open. Generic questions like “What’s your favorite part of your day and why?” often make her do all the work and provide value immediately. Only highly attractive, confident guys can get away with one-word replies or emojis and still succeed. If you’re not that type, it’s better to use humor, coquettish teasing, or playful pick-up lines that flatter.
Example: Instead of a generic question, I would have used: “I’m just here wondering if it hurt when you fell from heaven, because you’re an angel”
Correct, this is per night. That should be doable in a 4 hour session at night assuming you’re in a big city. I think numbers game wise, there’s only one time I’ve hit 50?To clarify, is that 35 to 40 approaches per night?
I'm currently at 10 approaches so far for this month, and I did 7 last month (17 so far year to date).
I've been working on my appearance, I feel much more confident than before, I'm dressing better, going to the gym on a regular basis and getting stronger. I think I need to do something about my hair and I should look into taking melatonin so I can sleep better.
I also really need to up my social circle game as @DonJefe19 pointed out, and @justaroundthecorner mentioned before pushing his agenda on me. I'm going to see if I can gain acquaintances at my gym, look to see when the next meetup for millennials is, and try to make friends/acquaintances at this place I go dancing at.
With one date out of 96 approaches last year, maybe I have an optics problem haha.
Oh, I meant to word this differently. I meant “hit 50 before pulling first.” That should be more clear.Correct, this is per night. That should be doable in a 4 hour session at night assuming you’re in a big city. I think numbers game wise, there’s only one time I’ve hit 50?
That said, I totally did have to work my way up to this and desensitize myself. I’m still doing it on my solo sessions.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
I would use my method (yes I have my own method now). Assume attraction for every online match.I actually got a match on Hinge. My texting game is terrible so I want to run it by here
"Great and kicking some grass"
"What's your very favorite part of your day and why"
I don't exactly say that, but please explain.Please don’t be going around saying “Hey I like you” to women.
that is all.
Idk. It seems… hokey that approach.I don't exactly say that, but please explain.