Plinco's cold approach journal

[Plinco]

@BackInTheGame78
Since you can't seem to answer my questions and your responses didn't make sense, here's two playlists that you can go through that will hopefully teach you critical thinking skills:

I think this will be beneficial to anyone else reading my thread too. The two sources I linked to above are honestly long and drawn out but are really good sources to learn how to think.

@BackInTheGame78 , but as for you, what I have seen from you is that you have preconceived notions that don't align with reality at all. I can only guess to the exact reason why, but I don't think you lack intelligence.

 

[Plinco]

Stats for 2025:

96 cold approaches

27 times I went out at night

I gained roughly five pounds. I didn't keep track my body fat percentage through the year.

196 videos posted to social media

23 martial arts classes attended to

41 leg days and 60 arm days

I made $50,820 for the year, which is about $7K less than last year.


These numbers are p!ss poor. Last year I did more than this, except for the cold approaches and going out. The upside is that I did upgrade my truck and learned where I can go to get the right people around me. Overall my situation at the end of 2025 is better than last year. It would have been better though if I would have at least made the same numbers as I did in 2024. I'm going to set higher goals for each month in 2026 to get me on target for this time next year.

I also averaged 5.5 hours of deep sleep per night, and average 9 hours in bed per night.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I'm planning to expand my current lawn business, and start another business using AI. I also want to fight in a ring and promote my philosophy and politics on social media. After that, I'm going to approach and hit on as many 18-20 year olds as I want this year just for you.
Going to college bars and hitting on young ladies makes me happy, and it's perfect in between doing everything else I'm doing.

But really @BackInTheGame78 who the F do you think you are to tell me what I should and shouldn't be doing? What right do you have to dictate to me on my course of action? You want to discourage me from doing what makes me happy, and tell me that I have no right to be happy. You want to deprive that one young lady who is out there from me being there. If I were in a happy and serious relationship with a women, regardless if she's 31 or just turned 18, are you going to tell me that I ought to have other priorities?

You denounce me as not having a grasp on reality, but it's you who lacks a grip on reality. Where does this notion that at age 40 that I have to act like other people? A man who is grounded to reality doesn't look to other people as his source of whether something is right or wrong. That is actually childish behavior.

That's great...you do you. But ironically, the biggest reason a woman that young would date a guy 40+ is because they have their sh!t and life together in ways you don't.

So, if you actually want that, the first order of business should be to get that resolved.

IMO your focus is in the wrong place for where you should be at this stage of your life.

Take it whatever way you want, but you need to bring more to the table than you currently are to date 20+ years younger, IMO. And yes, that includes finances and career.

I mean, when they can date a guy their age that's a shift supervisor at a fast food restaurant making as much or more than you, probably should tell you something about where you should be focused.

And that's why I said you are thinking like a 20 year old and not like a 40 year old...because you still haven't matured to have your priorities in the proper order for where you are in life.

 

[Plinco]

That's great...you do you. But ironically, the biggest reason a woman that young would date a guy 40+ is because they have their sh!t and life together in ways you don't.

So, if you actually want that, the first order of business should be to get that resolved.

IMO your focus is in the wrong place for where you should be at this stage of your life.

Take it whatever way you want, but you need to bring more to the table than you currently are to date 20+ years younger, IMO. And yes, that includes finances and career.

I mean, when they can date a guy their age that's a shift supervisor at a fast food restaurant making as much or more than you, probably should tell you something about where you should be focused.

And that's why I said you are thinking like a 20 year old and not like a 40 year old...because you still haven't matured to have your priorities in the proper order for where you are in life.

Of course I could always do better.

You don't know what maturity is and you don't have a grasp on reality as much as I do. I'm not trying to insult you. Thinking is a skill that takes practice to develop, most people don't have it. It's something that I have to practice on a daily basis myself too.

Maturity is not your career or what other people dictate. Maturity is taking ownership of yourself and your environment. If you are allowing other people to tell you what is right or wrong, you're letting your environment control you.

 

[DonJefe19]

You lack social proof. There's a common theme in your post where you're going solo and you're just approaching. That's fearless and bold but without having social proof, you're just going to be viewed as the harmless weird guy or as @BackInTheGame78 puts it, the creepy old guy.

Sure, you're making friends with the staff, but unless you're in deep with the bartender or even the owner, you're whole approach to picking up younger women is shot five minutes after you walk into the venue.

This is why @BackInTheGame78 assessment you being the creepy guy dancing on the floor and "mingling" around the bar resonates.

 

[Plinco]

You lack social proof. There's a common theme in your post where you're going solo and you're just approaching. That's fearless and bold but without having social proof, you're just going to be viewed as the harmless weird guy or as @BackInTheGame78 puts it, the creepy old guy.

Sure, you're making friends with the staff, but unless you're in deep with the bartender or even the owner, you're whole approach to picking up younger women is shot five minutes after you walk into the venue.

That's an interesting way to put it. I thought about this a little bit, such as going out with an acquaintance or dressing better. I think if I look better then that would give me more 'social proof.'

So because I look old, and that looks out of place given the venue, people make bad assumptions about me, and so people already have a bad opinion of me right away.

The only thing I can think of to remedy that is to look as good as I can, or have friends there. I have to give this some thought.

This is why @BackInTheGame78 assessment you being the creepy guy dancing on the floor and "mingling" around the bar resonates.

When he said something like that on page 11, I thought that was a possibility and wrote a post where I speculated on that possibly being true. After that @BackInTheGame78 wrote a bunch of vague nonsense about 'stages.' The only intelligent point he made recently in this thread was criticizing me on my lack of income.

 

[DonJefe19]

That's an interesting way to put it. I thought about this a little bit, such as going out with an acquaintance or dressing better. I think if I look better then that would give me more 'social proof.'

So because I look old, and that looks out of place given the venue, people make bad assumptions about me, and so people already have a bad opinion of me right away.

The only thing I can think of to remedy that is to look as good as I can, or have friends there. I have to give this some thought.

It's going to take more than just dressing better and bringing a buddy along. You need establish that you're the popular guy of the group among the venue:

* You have to be seen interacting with other women (playful dancing, hugging, la bise, etc.) What you're doing with the cold approaches is good because, sure, the convo may go nowhere but if she's being nice, most people in the venue are going to assume you know each other.

* There are people in the venue that know you and speak highly of you. You're doing a good job getting to know the staff, but you need more people in the venue to know you positively.

* And the big thing that makes life 10x easier is that you have to be seen as the "popular" guy in the group

There's ways to be perceived as popular. Just having general camaraderie in the group works. If you can get your buddies to do a line dance on the floor (he||, it could be cupid shuffle) and you managed to all look somewhat synchronized that's going to get people to more than likely say positive things about you.

 

[DonJefe19]

When he said something like that on page 11, I thought that was a possibility and wrote a post where I speculated on that possibly being true. After that @BackInTheGame78 wrote a bunch of vague nonsense about 'stages.' The only intelligent point he made recently in this thread was criticizing me on my lack of income.

I wouldn't think too hard on it. The simple answer is that you need more social proof and beyond the roasting, @BackInTheGame78 did make a good point about not wasting time on things that 20 year olds are fixated on.

 

[Plinco]

* And the big thing that makes life 10x easier is that you have to be seen as the "popular" guy in the group

There's ways to be perceived as popular. Just having general camaraderie in the group works. If you can get your buddies to do a line dance on the floor (he||, it could be cupid shuffle) and you managed to all look somewhat synchronized that's going to get people to more than likely say positive things about you.

This is good advice. This is an idea I had before and I discussed this with @BPH a while ago and I believed he said that it wouldn't be necessary. It certainly wouldn't hurt, and expanding my friends/acquaintance circles wouldn't be a bad idea either.

The last time I was there I did chat up with a few people there. I was having a good time and I wanted other people to have a good time too.

@BackInTheGame78 did make a good point about not wasting time on things that 20 year olds are fixated on.

I really don't understand what that means for me. If someone was making a stupid mistake from a lack of experience, then I can understand that statement. I suppose there's something going on that I'm doing that I'm not aware of.

 

[DonJefe19]

This is good advice. This is an idea I had before and I discussed this with @BPH a while ago and I believed he said that it wouldn't be necessary. It certainly wouldn't hurt, and expanding my friends/acquaintance circles wouldn't be a bad idea either.

The last time I was there I did chat up with a few people there. I was having a good time and I wanted other people to have a good time too.

When you're a 11/10 like @BPH, yeah, you're not going to need social proof. But in everyone's case including yours, you need to have social proof if you're going to elicit any sort of attention.

 

[BPH]

This is an idea I had before and I discussed this with @BPH a while ago and I believed he said that it wouldn't be necessary.

Here's what I'll say...

On Dancing: I'm a very good dancer. I used to take a Cardio Dance class when I was a freshman because I thought it'd be a good way to meet girls (I was the only straight guy in the class, so it was). I got to the point where the instructor encouraged me to apply to teach the class. Anyway, that is a skill I almost never use. Beyond knowing the steps to a line dance at a wedding, or knowing how to grind on a girl without being boring, you'll almost never have the opportunity to "bust a move" in an environment where people would think you're "cool" for it.

On Social Proof: Since I'm often going out by myself, or with 1 other single friend, my social proof came from having really great relationships with the staff at one particular college bar. First, I was friends with the managers. Then I befriended and heavily tipped the bartenders who were regularly working when I'd come. This led to most of them prioritizing me in a crowd, pouring me doubles, and not charging me for drinks. Since I was a familiar face, the bouncers also recognized me, and I frequently skipped the lines on crowded nights. However, the age gap is becoming a serious issue for these girls, which is why I have to go elsewhere if I want to have a good time with women I haven't already seen every weekend. @Plinco 's difficulty is that he is quite a bit older than me, and strongly prefers younger women, hence the uphill battle he currently faces.

 

[DonJefe19]

However, the age gap is becoming a serious issue for these girls, which is why I have to go elsewhere if I want to have a good time with women I haven't already seen every weekend. @Plinco 's difficulty is that he is quite a bit older than me, and strongly prefers younger women, hence the uphill battle he currently faces.

I think that social proof is even more important since chicks don't seem to care if a man is over 40 if there other women giving him attention

 

[Plinco]

The only way I can build social proof when I'm out by myself is the way I express myself. I think it's how I would dress plus how I express myself, which comes from my mindset. So I have to dress nice and have a good mindset in order to build social proof.

 

[characternote]

difficulty is that he is quite a bit older than me, and strongly prefers younger women, hence the uphill battle he currently faces.

I agree. Although to me, im more interested in why this is suddenly accepted on this forum and others like it. Just a few years ago, everyone would have gaslit plinco and dudes older than him, telling him that it gets easier to bang young girls (teens and early 20's) the older you are since they are so attracted to older men. Seemingly sudden shifts in consensus interest me, although I guess that's for another thread!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I agree. Although to me, im more interested in why this is suddenly accepted on this forum and others like it. Just a few years ago, everyone would have gaslit plinco and dudes older than him, telling him that it gets easier to bang young girls (teens and early 20's) the older you are since they are so attracted to older men. Seemingly sudden shifts in consensus interest me, although I guess that's for another thread!

Reality happened and people stopped lying to themselves.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Here's what I'll say...

On Dancing: I'm a very good dancer. I used to take a Cardio Dance class when I was a freshman because I thought it'd be a good way to meet girls (I was the only straight guy in the class, so it was). I got to the point where the instructor encouraged me to apply to teach the class. Anyway, that is a skill I almost never use. Beyond knowing the steps to a line dance at a wedding, or knowing how to grind on a girl without being boring, you'll almost never have the opportunity to "bust a move" in an environment where people would think you're "cool" for it.

On Social Proof: Since I'm often going out by myself, or with 1 other single friend, my social proof came from having really great relationships with the staff at one particular college bar. First, I was friends with the managers. Then I befriended and heavily tipped the bartenders who were regularly working when I'd come. This led to most of them prioritizing me in a crowd, pouring me doubles, and not charging me for drinks. Since I was a familiar face, the bouncers also recognized me, and I frequently skipped the lines on crowded nights. However, the age gap is becoming a serious issue for these girls, which is why I have to go elsewhere if I want to have a good time with women I haven't already seen every weekend. @Plinco 's difficulty is that he is quite a bit older than me, and strongly prefers younger women, hence the uphill battle he currently faces.

OP is essentially working at a fast food place and trying to buy a multi million dollar yacht. It's just not realistic.

It's great to have goals, but at some point you have to be realistic with those goals for them to make sense.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Stats for 2025:

96 cold approaches

27 times I went out at night

I gained roughly five pounds. I didn't keep track my body fat percentage through the year.

196 videos posted to social media

23 martial arts classes attended to

41 leg days and 60 arm days

I made $50,820 for the year, which is about $7K less than last year.


These numbers are p!ss poor. Last year I did more than this, except for the cold approaches and going out. The upside is that I did upgrade my truck and learned where I can go to get the right people around me. Overall my situation at the end of 2025 is better than last year. It would have been better though if I would have at least made the same numbers as I did in 2024. I'm going to set higher goals for each month in 2026 to get me on target for this time next year.

I also averaged 5.5 hours of deep sleep per night, and average 9 hours in bed per night.

Appreciate you posting the metrics. @SW15 would’ve pointed out the numbers in the past so I’ll do it now since he’s out…

Imo you should approach more.

96 cold approaches / 27 nights out = 3.55 average approaches a night, so we’ll round up and say 4 approaches a night on average.

You need a big city & more volume. For me, I’ve had to get into the mid 30s to early 40s to pull, & other wings I’ve gamed with had the same experience. When you up the volume it’s more statistically likely you’ll pull.

Just my $.02

 

[nicksaiz65]

Stats for 2025:

96 cold approaches

27 times I went out at night

I gained roughly five pounds. I didn't keep track my body fat percentage through the year.

196 videos posted to social media

23 martial arts classes attended to

41 leg days and 60 arm days

I made $50,820 for the year, which is about $7K less than last year.


These numbers are p!ss poor. Last year I did more than this, except for the cold approaches and going out. The upside is that I did upgrade my truck and learned where I can go to get the right people around me. Overall my situation at the end of 2025 is better than last year. It would have been better though if I would have at least made the same numbers as I did in 2024. I'm going to set higher goals for each month in 2026 to get me on target for this time next year.

I also averaged 5.5 hours of deep sleep per night, and average 9 hours in bed per night.

I also meant to bring up, how often are you going out to approach? 27 nights out is like, every other Friday/Saturday or so.

Try to get out every Friday & Saturday to do substantial sessions(3-4 hours, aiming to get out before midnight.) Even better if you can throw Thursdays in there.

Maybe some Daygame during the week too if that’s your thing.

 

[characternote]

Appreciate you posting the metrics. @SW15 would’ve pointed out the numbers in the past so I’ll do it now since he’s out…

Imo you should approach more.

Yep. I'm around his age and also mostly go for girls who are 18-24 and have had some really good success (along with a mountain of rejections of course!), most of which came a year or so back, and when I think about why, it was just because I was approaching SO MUCH on nights out and stuff compared to now. I was making at least like 30 approaches per night. I was getting laid maybe every other weekend? Nowadays I only make maybe 3-5 approaches on a night out and go ages without getting a new girl (I have a girl i've been seeing for ages which 'tides me over' and SLIGHTLY takes the sting out of it). The rejection rate going for these sorts of girls, if you are not a 'chad' (and especially if you are over 35 like me) is VERY high!! Even with all the 'game' in the world; Just the way it is

Reality happened and people stopped lying to themselves.

I just always find it interesting. I mean even 'people stopped lying to themselves' and 'reality happened' still leaves me with lots of questions about the timeline and the 'why' and 'how' a consensus is born. Just a personal curiosity of mine I guess. But yeah, on this forum and others, we've sharply gone from PUA's saying 'dude. girls don't care about age. In fact, it gets easier to bang the young ones as you get older because you have more experience, wisdom and 'game'/confidence', to 'young girls don't want old men in general. Most won't have any sexual attraction to you'. I feel like some apologies need to be made lol

 

[Plinco]

I also meant to bring up, how often are you going out to approach? 27 nights out is like, every other Friday/Saturday or so.

Try to get out every Friday & Saturday to do substantial sessions(3-4 hours, aiming to get out before midnight.) Even better if you can throw Thursdays in there.

Maybe some Daygame during the week too if that’s your thing.

If I go out, it's mostly on Thursday nights and do many of my approaches during the day.

Yep. I'm around his age and also mostly go for girls who are 18-24 and have had some really good success (along with a mountain of rejections of course!), most of which came a year or so back, and when I think about why, it was just because I was approaching SO MUCH on nights out and stuff compared to now. I was making at least like 30 approaches per night. I was getting laid maybe every other weekend? Nowadays I only make maybe 3-5 approaches on a night out and go ages without getting a new girl (I have a girl i've been seeing for ages which 'tides me over' and SLIGHTLY takes the sting out of it). The rejection rate going for these sorts of girls, if you are not a 'chad' (and especially if you are over 35 like me) is VERY high!! Even with all the 'game' in the world; Just the way it is

I had success with the 18-23 crowd when I was in my early 30's, but I also used to look a lot better and I had a huge social circle. Ever since my divorce I've had at best a couple of dates with some early 20's. My dating environment is completely different now than it was seven years ago. I'm learning how to make it work with the help of @BPH , and I totally have confidence that it will work, maybe this year. I have a lot of work to do.

I just always find it interesting. I mean even 'people stopped lying to themselves' and 'reality happened' still leaves me with lots of questions about the timeline and the 'why' and 'how' a consensus is born. Just a personal curiosity of mine I guess. But yeah, on this forum and others, we've sharply gone from PUA's saying 'dude. girls don't care about age. In fact, it gets easier to bang the young ones as you get older because you have more experience, wisdom and 'game'/confidence', to 'young girls don't want old men in general. Most won't have any sexual attraction to you'. I feel like some apologies need to be made lol

I've been saying this too essentially. I've always said it was possible but not easy.

The PUA's wanted to sell their courses and knew that they had the middle age man demographic as a big customer base.