Plinco's cold approach journal

[SW15]

I'm not rich but I'm not poor either. So you think it's transactional?

Getting a 10+ year age gap usually requires an above average income/net worth.

 

[Plinco]

Getting a 10+ year age gap usually requires an above average income/net worth.

The way I approach it, I'm not looking for an age gap relationship. As it happens, I'm attracted to women much younger than I am.

 

[SW15]

As it happens, I'm attracted to women much younger than I am.

Are they attracted to you? What's the incentive for an 18-25 year old to spend their time with you vs. others?

 

[Plinco]

Are they attracted to you? What's the incentive for an 18-25 year old to spend their time with you vs. others?

That's the 64,000 dollar question. Regardless if I'm in control over that or not, I'm responsible for it.

 

[Plinco]

I did my first night time bar approach in many years. I walked across the room to these two 20 something year olds. Got politely rejected.

Really none of the other women were worth approaching.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

More like 18 to 25

No offence man, but to date women so young your vibe would need to scream "I'm fun & fun to be with" and you would need to have the ability to naturally enter the social circle of such person (either with age compatibility, very high SMV, social ties or golden key of money advantage) while you are the person that thinks being 41y old guy cold approaching 20y old women on regular basis is day like everyday and perfectly acceptable.

Now, what you give off (in "vibe") that I read between the lines from this thread is that you are probably somewhat on the spectrum (focused on numbers, stats, increasing odds in somewhat direct manner by increasing repetitions, tying it up with self-improvement) and young woman may perceive your behaviour as somewhat creepy.

Now, it seems that reality is as follows:
- you are 41y old guy probably looking slightly younger than you are (unless literally every second person tells you you look much younger than you do, you are not looking that young)
- you are slightly above average in money but your job is boring
- your height is 5′ 10″ therefore it's just ok
- you drive an old car that gives off "I'm 40y old" vibe
- you do martial arts which may be interesting for some women but will probably also scare some off (natural alphas i.e. guys that treated martial arts as one of their primary interest in their late teens/early 20's and somewhat exceeled at them, are mostly past that stage already), note that martial arts were cool for millenial women while you are targetting Z and snow flake gen that prefers effeminated men;
- at 41y old you still don't know how to properly calibrate your dating profile on Tinder which tells me you lack in the field in social situations awareness
- you like cars like jeep, pickup etc.

My suggestions: drop down martial arts (waste of time at your age if you are still single), pick hiking as a new hobby and acquire good quality hiking gear, use your car which naturally fits exploring nature of travelling & hiking and go to some cool hiking trip - do a lot of photos there to make sure at least some will be good. Ask people on a trail to make some nice photos of you (they will be happy to help you). Do not make weird poses, smile naturally. Peacock slightly for photos (get natural tan if you don't have it, buy pricey red bandana and use it to cover neck, buy HQ sunglasses).

Enter some outdoor sports group on social media as well and try to make some connections. Learn to cook 2-3 cool italian and french dishes (literally cook them for yourself and try make them perfect) and enter some cooking social group as well. Discuss with other ppl - only positive comments, only happy open vibe, do not enter into fights online. Meanwhile check your teeths - need to look healthy AF.

Concerning Tinder and dating profile - set up age span like 25 - 48. Buy Gold subscription. Add new photos from your travelling & cool things you cooked. Preferably add some photos from trip to Europe. Swipe right 80% of single mothers, older ladies, fat women - keep them in matches, allow them to start convos, reply the convos from time to time ("hi!", "how are you today", "do you live long in ..." - reply each question in irregular fashion <1 hour - 20 hours> cut the convo short when woman will answer the last question - it will imply that perhaps something made you busy or took your attention - this will keep you in her matches for some time). A lot of matches and convos going will create jumping pad in the app for you and increase visibility of your profile to younger females.

Add some short description like "Hope you like hiking too" & "Swipe right if you think French&Italian cousine are the best" or smthng like that. Add photo from some rock concert you recently attended (one will be enough), pick some band that 25-35 year old chicks like (no progressive rock or smthng - I love it personally but its for old farts in women eyes). Do not add photos of animals. Do not add photos w/o shirt. Wearing t-shirt showing your muscled arms is ok.

Reality check: You might get a date with 25y old woman this way but it may be an uphill battle as, being absolutely honest, you would need to be in 1% of male attractiveness to pick up women 20 years younger than you and you seem to be just slightly above average. Realistically, an attractive woman around 32 years old should be your golden target right now and will provide a challenge. If very attractive 34-35 years old woman would strike your attention (and vice versa) I would not refuse the date if I was on your place.

 

[Plinco]

No offence man, but to date women so young your vibe would need to scream "I'm fun & fun to be with" and you would need to have the ability to naturally enter the social circle of such person (either with age compatibility, very high SMV, social ties or golden key of money advantage) while you are the person that thinks being 41y old guy cold approaching 20y old women on regular basis is day like everyday and perfectly acceptable.

Now, what you give off (in "vibe") that I read between the lines from this thread is that you are probably somewhat on the spectrum (focused on numbers, stats, increasing odds in somewhat direct manner by increasing repetitions, tying it up with self-improvement) and young woman may perceive your behaviour as somewhat creepy.

Now, it seems that reality is as follows:
- you are 41y old guy probably looking slightly younger than you are (unless literally every second person tells you you look much younger than you do, you are not looking that young)
- you are slightly above average in money but your job is boring
- your height is 5′ 10″ therefore it's just ok
- you drive an old car that gives off "I'm 40y old" vibe
- you do martial arts which may be interesting for some women but will probably also scare some off (natural alphas i.e. guys that treated martial arts as one of their primary interest in their late teens/early 20's and somewhat exceeled at them, are mostly past that stage already), note that martial arts were cool for millenial women while you are targetting Z and snow flake gen that prefers effeminated men;
- at 41y old you still don't know how to properly calibrate your dating profile on Tinder which tells me you lack in the field in social situations awareness
- you like cars like jeep, pickup etc.

My suggestions: drop down martial arts (waste of time at your age if you are still single), pick hiking as a new hobby and acquire good quality hiking gear, use your car which naturally fits exploring nature of travelling & hiking and go to some cool hiking trip - do a lot of photos there to make sure at least some will be good. Ask people on a trail to make some nice photos of you (they will be happy to help you). Do not make weird poses, smile naturally. Peacock slightly for photos (get natural tan if you don't have it, buy pricey red bandana and use it to cover neck, buy HQ sunglasses).

Enter some outdoor sports group on social media as well and try to make some connections. Learn to cook 2-3 cool italian and french dishes (literally cook them for yourself and try make them perfect) and enter some cooking social group as well. Discuss with other ppl - only positive comments, only happy open vibe, do not enter into fights online. Meanwhile check your teeths - need to look healthy AF.

Concerning Tinder and dating profile - set up age span like 25 - 48. Buy Gold subscription. Add new photos from your travelling & cool things you cooked. Preferably add some photos from trip to Europe. Swipe right 80% of single mothers, older ladies, fat women - keep them in matches, allow them to start convos, reply the convos from time to time ("hi!", "how are you today", "do you live long in ..." - reply each question in irregular fashion <1 hour - 20 hours> cut the convo short when woman will answer the last question - it will imply that perhaps something made you busy or took your attention - this will keep you in her matches for some time). A lot of matches and convos going will create jumping pad in the app for you and increase visibility of your profile to younger females.

Add some short description like "Hope you like hiking too" & "Swipe right if you think French&Italian cousine are the best" or smthng like that. Add photo from some rock concert you recently attended (one will be enough), pick some band that 25-35 year old chicks like (no progressive rock or smthng - I love it personally but its for old farts in women eyes). Do not add photos of animals. Do not add photos w/o shirt. Wearing t-shirt showing your muscled arms is ok.

Reality check: You might get a date with 25y old woman this way but it may be an uphill battle as, being absolutely honest, you would need to be in 1% of male attractiveness to pick up women 20 years younger than you and you seem to be just slightly above average. Realistically, an attractive woman around 32 years old should be your golden target right now and will provide a challenge. If very attractive 34-35 years old woman would strike your attention (and vice versa) I would not refuse the date if I was on your place.

I appreciate the advice but no amount of sex or companionship is worth pretending to be someone I'm not. I'm also not going to swipe right on women whom I'm not attracted to.

I think you're problem is, that you uphold sex and companionship above your self-esteem. If you don't agree with that, please by all means disagree with me here.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

Applying strategy that works is not about pretending, it's about upgrading your set of tactical moves to get the best effect for your efforts.

Companionship and sex are certainly better than lack of both if experienced with appropriate person - there's also a healthy level of self-esteem and sometimes there's a delusion of it.

 

[Plinco]

To you and everyone else who replies to my thread, I appreciate your input.

Also, I've said this before, but I'd like to say it again, that integrity is more important than sex.

Applying strategy that works is not about pretending, it's about upgrading your set of tactical moves to get the best effect for your efforts.

Companionship and sex are certainly better than lack of both if experienced with appropriate person - there's also a healthy level of self-esteem and sometimes there's a delusion of it.

The key word here is appropriate. Having a relationship with a woman whom I'm not attracted to is not appropriate; not for me or her. I divorced a woman not long ago because I didn't find her sexually attractive, despite the fact that I'm sure that she would have passed for above average looks to most men.

My goal is to bring out the attractive attributes in me so that I will be attractive to the women whom I find attractive. As I'm sure you know, attraction is not a choice, it's a reaction based on who the person is. To say that there's something wrong with what I'm attracted to, is to say that there's something wrong with who I am.

I don't agree with you that the solution is to pretend to be someone I'm not (aka lowering my standards). I thing there's always many solutions to a problem and as long as I have all of my faculties, there's nothing I couldn't do. I think you would disagree with what I'm saying, but I welcome different opinions.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

All right man, do anything that suits your approach, wish you luck.

 

[Plinco]

I think I need to make clear to some on here what kind of women I'm interested as it relates to age. Obviously there's more to it than that, but here are my empirical observations from Tinder if I extend the radius to 100 miles (there are less than 500 women within a 25 mile radius of where I live between 18 to 35).

How many I swiped right/20:

31-35 3/20
26-30 3/20
21-25 7/20
18-20 15/20

I'm going to see about posting more observations later.

 

[Plinco]

I think I need to make clear to some on here what kind of women I'm interested as it relates to age. Obviously there's more to it than that, but here are my empirical observations from Tinder if I extend the radius to 100 miles (there are less than 500 women within a 25 mile radius of where I live between 18 to 35).

How many I swiped right/20:

31-35 3/20
26-30 3/20
21-25 7/20
18-20 15/20

I'm going to see about posting more observations later.

75% of women 18 to 20 on Tinder are attractive
35% 21 to 25
15% over 25

 

[justaroundthecorner]

Hmm not good man, it seems that you live in rural area - it seriously limits online dating effectiveness - in rural area you probably need to mix online dating with attending any discos/clubs that gather were locals looking for dancing/fun on the weekend.

 

[Plinco]

Hmm not good man, it seems that you live in rural area - it seriously limits online dating effectiveness - in rural area you probably need to mix online dating with attending any discos/clubs that gather were locals looking for dancing/fun on the weekend.

I don't dance but I do go to a string of bars once or twice a month on a Friday or Saturday night and do an approach here or there when warranted.

 

[Plinco]

No offence man, but to date women so young your vibe would need to scream "I'm fun & fun to be with" and you would need to have the ability to naturally enter the social circle of such person (either with age compatibility, very high SMV, social ties or golden key of money advantage) while you are the person that thinks being 41y old guy cold approaching 20y old women on regular basis is day like everyday and perfectly acceptable.

Now, what you give off (in "vibe") that I read between the lines from this thread is that you are probably somewhat on the spectrum (focused on numbers, stats, increasing odds in somewhat direct manner by increasing repetitions, tying it up with self-improvement) and young woman may perceive your behaviour as somewhat creepy.

Now, it seems that reality is as follows:
- you are 41y old guy probably looking slightly younger than you are (unless literally every second person tells you you look much younger than you do, you are not looking that young)
- you are slightly above average in money but your job is boring
- your height is 5′ 10″ therefore it's just ok
- you drive an old car that gives off "I'm 40y old" vibe
- you do martial arts which may be interesting for some women but will probably also scare some off (natural alphas i.e. guys that treated martial arts as one of their primary interest in their late teens/early 20's and somewhat exceeled at them, are mostly past that stage already), note that martial arts were cool for millenial women while you are targetting Z and snow flake gen that prefers effeminated men;
- at 41y old you still don't know how to properly calibrate your dating profile on Tinder which tells me you lack in the field in social situations awareness
- you like cars like jeep, pickup etc.

My suggestions: drop down martial arts (waste of time at your age if you are still single), pick hiking as a new hobby and acquire good quality hiking gear, use your car which naturally fits exploring nature of travelling & hiking and go to some cool hiking trip - do a lot of photos there to make sure at least some will be good. Ask people on a trail to make some nice photos of you (they will be happy to help you). Do not make weird poses, smile naturally. Peacock slightly for photos (get natural tan if you don't have it, buy pricey red bandana and use it to cover neck, buy HQ sunglasses).

Enter some outdoor sports group on social media as well and try to make some connections. Learn to cook 2-3 cool italian and french dishes (literally cook them for yourself and try make them perfect) and enter some cooking social group as well. Discuss with other ppl - only positive comments, only happy open vibe, do not enter into fights online. Meanwhile check your teeths - need to look healthy AF.

Concerning Tinder and dating profile - set up age span like 25 - 48. Buy Gold subscription. Add new photos from your travelling & cool things you cooked. Preferably add some photos from trip to Europe. Swipe right 80% of single mothers, older ladies, fat women - keep them in matches, allow them to start convos, reply the convos from time to time ("hi!", "how are you today", "do you live long in ..." - reply each question in irregular fashion <1 hour - 20 hours> cut the convo short when woman will answer the last question - it will imply that perhaps something made you busy or took your attention - this will keep you in her matches for some time). A lot of matches and convos going will create jumping pad in the app for you and increase visibility of your profile to younger females.

Add some short description like "Hope you like hiking too" & "Swipe right if you think French&Italian cousine are the best" or smthng like that. Add photo from some rock concert you recently attended (one will be enough), pick some band that 25-35 year old chicks like (no progressive rock or smthng - I love it personally but its for old farts in women eyes). Do not add photos of animals. Do not add photos w/o shirt. Wearing t-shirt showing your muscled arms is ok.

Reality check: You might get a date with 25y old woman this way but it may be an uphill battle as, being absolutely honest, you would need to be in 1% of male attractiveness to pick up women 20 years younger than you and you seem to be just slightly above average. Realistically, an attractive woman around 32 years old should be your golden target right now and will provide a challenge. If very attractive 34-35 years old woman would strike your attention (and vice versa) I would not refuse the date if I was on your place.

I thought about dissecting this further. When I get the time, I will.

 

[Plinco]

No offence man, but to date women so young your vibe would need to scream "I'm fun & fun to be with"

Agreed. I’m definitely interesting. Fun? I think that depends on the person.

and you would need to have the ability to naturally enter the social circle of such person (either with age compatibility, very high SMV, social ties or golden key of money advantage) while you are the person that thinks being 41y old guy cold approaching 20y old women on regular basis is day like everyday and perfectly acceptable.

If I think approaching these women is acceptable, then why wouldn’t it also be natural?

Now, what you give off (in "vibe") that I read between the lines from this thread is that you are probably somewhat on the spectrum (focused on numbers, stats, increasing odds in somewhat direct manner by increasing repetitions, tying it up with self-improvement) and young woman may perceive your behaviour as somewhat creepy.

It’s not like I’m telling these girls, “You’re the third young lady I’ve approached today to get a conversation hehehe”

So I don’t know what you mean by ‘creepy’

- you drive an old car that gives off "I'm 40y old" vibe

- you like cars like jeep, pickup etc.

I see a lot of young guys drive old pickup trucks. If not, then they are driving older cars, like Honda Civics or Dodge Chargers. Usually you don’t see gen Z’ers drive new vehicles, and many millennials for that matter too.

- at 41y old you still don't know how to properly calibrate your dating profile on Tinder which tells me you lack in the field in social situations awareness

What specifically is not calibrated in my Tinder profile, besides my pictures?

My suggestions: drop down martial arts (waste of time at your age if you are still single)

I don’t know why you would suggest that. There are good reasons to know how to use your fists. As long as I’m healthy, what difference does it make what age I am?

pick hiking as a new hobby and acquire good quality hiking gear, use your car which naturally fits exploring nature of travelling & hiking and go to some cool hiking trip - do a lot of photos there to make sure at least some will be good. Ask people on a trail to make some nice photos of you (they will be happy to help you). Do not make weird poses, smile naturally. Peacock slightly for photos (get natural tan if you don't have it, buy pricey red bandana and use it to cover neck, buy HQ sunglasses).

I appreciate the suggestion but I don’t have time to do that.

Learn to cook 2-3 cool italian and french dishes (literally cook them for yourself and try make them perfect) and enter some cooking social group as well.

It sounds like you’re into attracting women who are lame af.

...do not enter into fights online.

Party pooper.

Concerning Tinder and dating profile - set up age span like 25 - 48.

Why on Earth would I do that? Women over 35 are going to have a hard time trying to conceive of a child. Why would I skip out on 18-24?

Buy Gold subscription.

A lot of matches and convos going will create jumping pad in the app for you and increase visibility of your profile to younger females.

Do you think it’s worth it if there’s less than 500 women between 18 to 35 years old in my area?

Swipe right 80% of single mothers, older ladies, fat women

Eww, gross, and disgusting. I wonder what that will do to my self-esteem?

(no progressive rock or smthng - I love it personally but its for old farts in women eyes).

The two 21 year old women I’m talking to, one listens to country and classical music, the other listens to classic rock.

A 29/30 year old I dated last year listens to a variety of music, and for a time she was listening to a lot of Johnny Cash and Elvis

A 26 year old woman I hung out with a few months ago was listening to Fleetwood Mac.

Reality check: You might get a date with 25y old woman this way but it may be an uphill battle as, being absolutely honest, you would need to be in 1% of male attractiveness to pick up women 20 years younger than you and you seem to be just slightly above average.

What’s wrong with getting to that top 1%?

Realistically, an attractive woman around 32 years old should be your golden target right now and will provide a challenge.

Why should 32 be a target?

If very attractive 34-35 years old woman would strike your attention (and vice versa) I would not refuse the date if I was on your place.

Why? Most 34-35 year old women I would reject.

Applying strategy that works is not about pretending, it's about upgrading your set of tactical moves to get the best effect for your efforts.

Again, I appreciate your input, but pretending to be someone you’re not, or seeking women who your not attracted to is definitely not effective.

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What I suspect, is that you are upholding other people's opinions above your own, and that you are projecting that onto me in this thread. Obviously you mean well, but I really want you to think about this. If you want something, and you are not violating the rights of anyone, why let other people stop you from getting it? Why let other people have that power over you?

 

[justaroundthecorner]

Man, you're the one looking for female right now (I'm happily married) - I wrote already how you can increase your chances - you can go full Chuck Norris on my advice as you please and invoke idea that you are who you are and you should find a woman that matches you, not the other way around - the truth is, you both need to pick each other and in order to be a catch you need to present qualities that are more unique from female perspective and that have particular romantic vibe (because women are interested in romance).

However I'm not sure if that's possible because in order to be successful with females, you need to either upgrade your game & pass the reality check or at least do the second - you are not interested in upgrading your game and you still think you can pull beautiful 20-something year old female staying on familiar path you like.

Are you even aware that these days majority of 25 year old women put age filter in dating apps that does not go above 35 years old men? There is probably much more than 500 females on Tinder in the proximity of 25 Miles from you, but at least 50% of them (the more interesting 50% or more) does not want to meet you, on the lone criteria of your age already.

So there you are, 41 year old guy (already old in eyes of 20-year olds) with not particularly interesting hobbies from female perspective, with non-exciting job from female perspective, rather typical single +40 y old guy. Your forte is probably your fitness and being methodical (which is not that much as you compete with much younger guys). You are probably overall just average in eyes of the young females that meet you, some might be even interested in playing you around to gain experience (because what is wrong with testing your limits, right?) - but imho it's not enough to get what you want. Women are never about average - even ugly women that are smart make concessions on male's attractiveness in exchange for some qualities he may provide better than other guys.

The funny thing is you may be quite handsome (because you still get some dates from time to time in spite of "damaged optics") so there's certainly some base that can be effectively upgraded in many ways - except you seem to prefer not to - which only stress out to me that you will not find much success with current approach.

Tbh there are hundreds guys with your level of attractiveness in your relative proximity - and only few guys that know how to attract and romance chicks - it's your choice to be one of these guys ASAP (because you are already past your prime time) or stay average and dream about young princess picking aging plinco as he is.

Attractive female will want more - more emotions, more romance, better game, mature approach, experience (in case of older guys, it means to be more open, less impulsive and rigidly attached to what you think is right or wrong, knowing paths that younger guys never took) while your attitude is exactly the opposite - 41 year old guy worrying about self esteem hit from changing game strategy and covering it with "you are too attached to what other ppl think" talk which tbh sounds like 20 year old-something incel gibberish.

You want to actually date younger chicks or only plan to do it for the rest of your life? Because for me it looks like the second.

 

[Plinco]

"...the better each person is, the more irascible he will be."

Unknown, student of Aristotle.

Don't get offended. I'm challenging you, and that's a good thing. I'm questioning you because I want to know where your perspective is coming from. And please don't give me some vague answers. If you can't answer, just say you can't answer the question. I'm going to take apart your post here too, and pick your brain.

you can go full Chuck Norris on my advice as you please

Relax. Why are you offended?

However I'm not sure if that's possible because in order to be successful with females, you need to either upgrade your game & pass the reality check or at least do the second - you are not interested in upgrading your game and you still think you can pull beautiful 20-something year old female staying on familiar path you like.

If I wasn't interested in upgrading my game, I wouldn't make this thread. I'm guessing that you're implying that I'm still discovering the market when you are referring to 'reality test.' Is that correct?

Are you even aware that these days majority of 25 year old women put age filter in dating apps that does not go above 35 years old men? There is probably much more than 500 females on Tinder in the proximity of 25 Miles from you, but at least 50% of them (the more interesting 50% or more) does not want to meet you, on the lone criteria of your age already.

I figured that already. That's why I don't put too much hope in Tinder. This is one of the biggest reasons why I think cold approach is the way to go.

So there you are, 41 year old guy (already old in eyes of 20-year olds) with not particularly interesting hobbies from female perspective, with non-exciting job from female perspective, rather typical single +40 y old guy. Your forte is probably your fitness and being methodical (which is not that much as you compete with much younger guys). You are probably overall just average in eyes of the young females that meet you, some might be even interested in playing you around to gain experience (because what is wrong with testing your limits, right?) - but imho it's not enough to get what you want. Women are never about average - even ugly women that are smart make concessions on male's attractiveness in exchange for some qualities he may provide better than other guys.

Okay that's cool. I feel like I'm special, and I'm definitely different. Is that attractive to most of the ladies? I don't know. It's attractive to a few though.

The funny thing is you may be quite handsome (because you still get some dates from time to time in spite of "damaged optics") so there's certainly some base that can be effectively upgraded in many ways - except you seem to prefer not to - which only stress out to me that you will not find much success with current approach.

Thanks for calling me an ugly mother f'er lol What makes you think I wouldn't improve on my looks? I have a whole regime for doing that.

Tbh there are hundreds guys with your level of attractiveness in your relative proximity - and only few guys that know how to attract and romance chicks - it's your choice to be one of these guys ASAP (because you are already past your prime time) or stay average and dream about young princess picking aging plinco as he is.

I feel like I'm more in my prime now than ever. Of course that doesn't mean that other people think that way. I'm willing to work hard as hell to attract hot 18-20 year old women. I have ideas about how to do that, but if I was confident that I knew what I was doing, I wouldn't be making this thread.

Attractive female will want more - more emotions, more romance, better game, mature approach, experience (in case of older guys, it means to be more open, less impulsive and rigidly attached to what you think is right or wrong, knowing paths that younger guys never took)

Yes, perfect!

while your attitude is exactly the opposite - 41 year old guy worrying about self esteem hit from changing game strategy and covering it with "you are too attached to what other ppl think" talk which tbh sounds like 20 year old-something incel gibberish.

That's not at all true. Somehow you're getting offended. Just relax, and I'm not putting you down or anything like that. I challenge people to see how good their ideas are. Think of this as Plinco's sh!t tests. It's not a bad thing that your ideas are being challenged.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

Neither I am offended, nor I feel challenged or motivated to go into details how dating apps work, or wonder too much why passively aggressive 40+ year old guys think they are able to acquire top 1% male status while some other guys already get strokes or heart attacks at this age - I think you have full right to stick to your opinion as it may be and still be yourself.

 

[Plinco]

Neither I am offended, nor I feel challenged or motivated to go into details how dating apps work, or wonder too much why passively aggressive 40+ year old guys think they are able to acquire top 1% male status while some other guys already get strokes or heart attacks at this age - I think you have full right to stick to your opinion as it may be and still be yourself.

That's fine.

I'm going to explain some things to those who are following this thread, and also to you too @justaroundthecorner

Those questions were there to get you to think about what you are passing off as advice. "Lower your standards" is not game, it's anti-game. Inner game is all about having a healthy, can-do mindset. I was really hoping that I could get you to answer those questions, because that would have enabled both of us to drill deeper into your perspective. I want everyone else who scrolls through this thread to read my questions to that input, and ask yourself the same questions and see where it leads in your own minds.

I'm 41 years old; I'm currently setting up a date with a 5.5/10 21 year old. Yeah she's nerdy but she's cute and interesting. In every aspect of your life, it's imperative that you have standards, because your life depends on it. As humans, we are rational beings that cannot survive like animals who rely on instinct. Just because you have an urge to do something, doesn't mean that you give into that impulse. You probably have a sex drive, but that doesn't mean that you can "lower your standards" to stick your wiener wherever and then still expect to be happy. Happiness is more important that sex, which is why "lower your standards" is not advice, but sabotage.

By making sex so much the focus that you have to lower your standards to get laid, is the foundation of simping and loss of accountability. Why are women so fvcked up? The answer is "lower your standards" Guys, don't lower your standards, raise them on yourselves! Is 40 too old? Being 40 is whatever you want it to be, provided that you take responsibility for it, for your own sake and for no one else's.