Sho-No-Luv
Senior Don Juan
Cmon, mods he's actually a good guy. 
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
This. The guy is Elliot Rogers 2.0.Last week I see him posting about feeling violent tendencies towards women, wanting to push them down stairs or whatever. This is not good material to be posting on any website and least of all here, where we are discussing sensitive topics and there are emotional, vulnerable minds that might get the wrong impression. Like I said to him on that very thread, he needs some sort of face to face professional input; not some pop psychology on an amateur internet forum like this, which clearly hasn't been working for him.
Well, we are all entitled to our opinions, LOL.This. The guy is Elliot Rogers 2.0.
He shows absolutely no ability or intention to consider other people's points of view, nor deviate from his quite frankly, disturbing and destructive views on women - impressionable noobs don't benefit from reading nonsense like this. And in all the time he's been on this forum he hasn't changed.
I hope the ban is permanent. His net contribution to this forum is a huge negative.
I like Tenacity and think he has more to offer than most here. He can offer solid, practical advice. He is just his own worst enemy when it comes to going off on people! It doesn't shock me that he got banned!
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
True, in no small part due to guys like him...This forum isn't always the healthiest place to be.
No delusion here sweety.Don't have any dellusion that he will change his posting style once he comes back. He is who he is. He's frustrated and venting a lot here. He may be able to contain himself for a bit but we all know people don't change. Eventually he will resume true tenacity style.
I'm all for second chances for anyone.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Playherman?We need to unban playherman.
He wasn't so bad. Just working sh!t out like a lot of us are.
Hopefully he's unbanned soon. Figures out what he was doing wrong and focuses on what he was doing right. There were a lot of interesting things in his posts.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.