"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Platonic friendship
- Thread starter Pakwah
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
BlackJackal
Master Don Juan
MacAvoy
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
TheChicGeek
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Somebody forgot to tell the 10 guys that answered they can be only friends with the hot girl and NOT want more that this isn't the hot girl asking them and they can be truthful.Pakwah said:
Reminds me of the joke, 97% of guys jerk off, the other 3% don't have arms.
Buck Rogers
Don Juan
can you be friends with a hot girl?
The fact that you notice shes hot, already means that youve thought about ****ing her.
Now your screwed if you become her friend, because the sex thing is already out there, and its gunna come up again and again.
MacAvoy
Banned
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
So you can have attractive female friends as long as you're not too close to them.
tr0ublemaker
Don Juan
i have plenty of attractive females as friends..what disinterests me in being intiment with them is probably some incompatible personality feat..so i just be their friend
Buck Rogers
Don Juan
tr0ublemaker said:
yeah your point?
A) The fact that you described them as attractive gets me. If you find her attractive you must want to or have wanted to **** her at some point?tr0ublemaker said:
B) and you can challenge this theory if you want:
The only reason guys talk to an attractive girl is because we want to have sex with them, which brings me round to the first point- you want to poke them and not be friends- the only reason you are friends with them now is because your attempts at phucking them failed.
skip2mylou781
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skip2mylou781
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a)social proof when you and your "friend" go clubbing
b)friends with benefits
yea, that pretty much sums it up
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Have you washed it properly? Either way, this isn't the right place to talk about that. Go to a chicks site.tr0ublemaker said:
The point is, why would we want to be their friend?
To watch your favorite series (Sex and the City) and go shopping? Or how about talking about those men that hurt their feelings and are insecure because they date other women.
"Yeah, he's a Jerk, you can do so much better!"
Buck Rogers
Don Juan
BlackJackal
Master Don Juan
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.