Palm Beach Crash

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Been there the night before.

 

[Plinco]

This guy explains it very well.

 

[The Duke]

Very sad. I've been in a situation like this but we made it out. Had a family member that died this same way. Airplanes and weather are always high risk situations.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

That's why you don't trust 20 years olds to fly planes. Not enough experience in "oh sh!t" conditions.

 

[Plinco]

That's why you don't trust 20 years olds to fly planes. Not enough experience in "oh sh!t" conditions.

Flying smaller planes at shorter distances in order to gain experience is fine, but not bigger jets like this one, with passengers. At the very least there should have been an experienced co-pilot present. I believed both pilots lacked experience and shouldn't have been flying passengers.

 

[Bible_Belt]

If you look up the "pilot debrief" channel on YouTube, it's not an uncommon story that a young attractive person, usually female but not always, becomes a pilot for the sake of being a social media celebrity. Then they crash and die because they never were very good at flying, they just wanted to be famous.

 

[Sega Genesis]

I believed both pilots lacked experience and shouldn't have been flying passengers.

@Plinco , the main pilot who was flying the plane was Captain Jeffrey Gregory.

His Bio:

Captain Jeffrey Gregory had approximately 20 years of aviation experience.

His certifications and experience details:

• Certificates: He held an Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate—issued by the FAA in October 2021—with ratings to operate multiple jet types, including the Learjet 60.
• Flight Instruction: He became a certified flight instructor (CFI) for single-engine and multi-engine aircraft in April 2025.
• Aviation Background: He previously worked as a pilot for charter and aviation companies, including East Coast Jets in Allentown, Pennsylvania (2016–2017), and was a former member of an Allentown aviation company.
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• No one knows what truly happened yet other than they experienced severe turbulence due to thunderstorms, lightning, high winds etc.
  I'm wondering if the plane was hit by lightning? I listened to the full audio tape (chilling) and the co-pilot (the 20 year old) was communicating with Air Traffic Control quite effectively, the flight was going very well despite light turbulence until very very suddenly the plane began descending at approx 10,000 to 27,000 feet per minute until it hit the ground.
  
  Such a sad and tragic situation. A family was on board (parents and their two young children). 9 people total. RIP.

 

[zekko]

That's why you don't trust 20 years olds to fly planes. Not enough experience in "oh sh!t" conditions.

I heard the co-pilot was 20 years old, but the pilot was 55.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Gee, looks like it's not all kittens and sunshine when you aspire to phucking spy on people lol. RIP to the mom. kids and pilots.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2117481259462991923

 

[Sega Genesis]

No that's wrong...she was the pilot, the co-pilot was 55. She has been piloting since she was 17 apparently.

BITG, I am curious where you're getting your information? I have been listening all morning to interviews with Air Traffic Control and NTSB and this is what has been confirmed:

>>"The captain and pilot in command of the Learjet 60 that crashed in Greenacres, Florida, on November 1, 2026, was Jeff Gregory (55), and the co-pilot was Nathalia Gadelha Filgueir (20)."<<

 

[Atom Smasher]

@Plinco , the main pilot who was flying the plane was Captain Jeffrey Gregory.

His Bio:

Captain Jeffrey Gregory had approximately 20 years of aviation experience.

His certifications and experience details:

• Certificates: He held an Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate—issued by the FAA in October 2021—with ratings to operate multiple jet types, including the Learjet 60.
• Flight Instruction: He became a certified flight instructor (CFI) for single-engine and multi-engine aircraft in April 2025.
• Aviation Background: He previously worked as a pilot for charter and aviation companies, including East Coast Jets in Allentown, Pennsylvania (2016–2017), and was a former member of an Allentown aviation company.
• 
  
• No one knows what truly happened yet other than they experienced severe turbulence due to thunderstorms, lightning, high winds etc.
  I'm wondering if the plane was hit by lightning? I listened to the full audio tape (chilling) and the co-pilot (the 20 year old) was communicating with Air Traffic Control quite effectively, the flight was going very well despite light turbulence until very very suddenly the plane began descending at approx 10,000 to 27,000 feet per minute until it hit the ground.
  
  Such a sad and tragic situation. A family was on board (parents and their two young children). 9 people total. RIP.

They didn't "experience" severe turbulence. They willingly flew into it. They did the very same thing back in May and decided to change altitude drastically without requesting the change. Very, very bad thing to do, and quite illegal. The tower called them out on it and the girl replied, "we were just going to call you". Twice this girl minimized the level of turbulence to the tower and the tower had to correct her to say it was severe turbulence. This is not effective communications. In fact it's anything but. It was outrageously careless of both of them.

So we have two pilots who were not qualified to handle this plane, and not qualified to communicate with ATC properly. This is what gets people killed. This plane is a huge handful in any kind of turbulence due to its small wing area, the wing sweepback and the T-tail, all of which combine to make it very touchy. It's real easy to let this plane get away from you. I think a 20 year old flying this plane is absurd. Even if she wasn't at the controls, the copilot often takes the controls during a flight, and of course if anything were to happen to the pilot, she would be responsible for bringing this very squirrelly plane in safely.

This was easily avoidable. Simply don't fly into bad weather. Go around it. They were already dead when they decided to fly over it as these meteorological conditions can easily rise to 50,000 - 60,000 feet easily. The maximum service altitude of this plane is about 51,000 feet.

We pilots call this syndrome "Get there itis".This is tunnel vision which makes one think they absolutely have to get there at a certain place and at an exact time. We pilots are actually thoroughly trained about this very thing, and "Get there itis" is the actual name that is used in training. The ice definitely took them down, and this is one plane I'd hate to be in with ice. So many fatals are preventable by exercising common sense.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

BITG, I am curious where you're getting your information? I have been listening all morning to interviews with Air Traffic Control and NTSB and this is what has been confirmed:

>>"The captain and pilot in command of the Learjet 60 that crashed in Greenacres, Florida, on November 1, 2026, was Jeff Gregory (55), and the co-pilot was Nathalia Gadelha Filgueir (20)."<<

Oh damn...I stand corrected...for some reason either skimming over this or in an earlier article from yesterday I thought it said she was the pilot because they talked at length about her and nothing about the actual pilot.

 

[Sega Genesis]

They didn't "experience" severe turbulence. They willingly flew into it. They did the very same thing back in May and decided to change altitude drastically without requesting the change. Very, very bad thing to do, and quite illegal. The tower called them out on it and the girl replied, "we were just going to call you". Twice this girl minimized the level of turbulence to the tower and the tower had to correct her to say it was severe turbulence. This is not effective communications. In fact it's anything but. It was outrageously careless of both of them.

So we have two pilots who were not qualified to handle this plane, and not qualified to communicate with ATC properly. This is what gets people killed. This plane is a huge handful in any kind of turbulence due to its small wing area, the wing sweepback and the T-tail, all of which combine to make it very touchy. It's real easy to let this plane get away from you. I think a 20 year old flying this plane is absurd. Even if she wasn't at the controls, the copilot often takes the controls during a flight, and of course if anything were to happen to the pilot, she would be responsible for bringing this very squirrelly plane in safely.

This was easily avoidable. Simply don't fly into bad weather. Go around it. They were already dead when they decided to fly over it as these meteorlogical conditions can easily rise to 50,000 - 60,000 feet easily. The maximum service altitude of this plane is about 51,000 feet.

We pilots call this syndrome "Get there itis".This is tunnel vision which makes one think they absolutely have to get there at a certain place and at an exact time. We pilots are actually thoroughly trained about this very thing. The ice definitely took them down, and this is one plane I'd hate to be in with ice. So many fatals are preventable by exercising common sense.

Ok thanks for this^^. Interesting.

I hadn't heard this either in the audiotape or interviews with NTSB I listened to, but defer to you since it sounds like you are a pilot yourself? And have more knowledge about such things.

"We pilots call this syndrome "Get there itis"."

 

[Sega Genesis]

@Atom Smasher I did more research after reading your post and it appears you are correct that it was pilot error.

>>Yes, preliminary flight tracking, radar data, and ****pit recordings indicate that the doomed Learjet 60 flew directly into a rapidly developing, powerful South Florida thunderstorm cell shortly before it crashed on Sunday, November 1, 2026, killing all nine people on board.<<