"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Motown...I am a STRONG believer that the intial chemical reaction that comes from attraction is very important. In fact, it can make the difference when it comes to the success of a relationship.

You don't get that chemical reaction from On-line.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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MotownMack said:
...But I am starting to feel like when you first meet-days after most of the emotions you implanted in her mind are long gone, you're almost back to square one.
Plant your seed deeper. :p Plus you should try not to have a huge period of empty time between your last message and your meeting. Also, when you do meet, there's no need to start over. Pick up where you left off or even better, project yourself even further beyond the level of comfort that you had reached, start off immediately at the trust stage.
 

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Latinoman said:
Motown...I am a STRONG believer that the intial chemical reaction that comes from attraction is very important. In fact, it can make the difference when it comes to the success of a relationship.

You don't get that chemical reaction from On-line.

thats not true.

the chemical reaction is not just sparked by physical communication and contact
 

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frivolousz21 said:
thats not true.

the chemical reaction is not just sparked by physical communication and contact
I won't debate this as I know I am right on this particular issue based on life experience.

Chemical reaction requires the use of all five senses. That's how you really start that chemical reaction.

On-line adds to the FANTASY element. I will give you that. But it typically lead to "ooops" and false expectations. . However, a well placed words and a great kiss...would bring as much fantasy.
 

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online is a perfect place to meet the co-star of your next F'up relationship.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Latinoman said:
Motown...I am a STRONG believer that the intial chemical reaction that comes from attraction is very important. In fact, it can make the difference when it comes to the success of a relationship.

You don't get that chemical reaction from On-line.
What you can do is simply try to meet women who fit, at the very least, what you believe would be the physical characteristics that would lead to initial chemical reaction/attraction-from my perspective at least.

I am certainly very guilty of not having had the confidence to approach the types of women who I am most physically attracted to in the past, but being able to connect with them online (as I have on a number of occasions) and then take it to the next level has added immensely to my confidence to now approach these types of women offline as well.
 
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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Plant your seed deeper. :p Plus you should try not to have a huge period of empty time between your last message and your meeting. Also, when you do meet, there's no need to start over. Pick up where you left off or even better, project yourself even further beyond the level of comfort that you had reached, start off immediately at the trust stage.
This is huge. I consciously approached my last meeting -as if- I already knew her, in efforts to avoid the initial awkwardness. Acting as if you are already a friend, confidant, even perhaps lover goes a long way in displaying value, and also creates a comfort level right out of the gate.

Oh, something else I did which I thought was pure genius...this woman had cats, and in our initial emails, I mentioned I was probably allergic, and then I called her a cat-lady, but when we met, I was fully armed...with $1.99 bag of catnip as a gift.
 

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thirdtimescharm said:
What you can do is simply try to meet women who fit, at the very least, what you believe would be the physical characteristics that you believe would lead to initial chemical reaction/attraction-from my perspective at least.

I am certainly very guilty of not having had the confidence to approach the types of women who I am most physically attracted to in the past, but being able to connect with them online (as I have on a number of occasions) and then take it to the next level has added immensely to my confidence to now approach these types of women offline as well.
That's fine and I'm glad you are working on yourself.

But the chemical reaction that you see coming from a woman...you will, someday experience in person. And it will come.
 

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Latinoman said:
That's fine and I'm glad you are working on yourself.

But the chemical reaction that you see coming from a woman...you will, someday experience in person. And it will come.
I have experienced it in offline meetings as well. Functionally though, once I have met the online people, if there is a chemical attraction going on both ways, it is NO different at that point from a meeting offline as far as I am concerned.
 

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My experience with women that have shown a strong chemical reaction for me...those women tend to be in a "blitz state" to the point that there is no other men in their minds or eyes.

Of course...sex adds to that chemical reaction.

Trust me when I say that it is stronger in person and when they first see you in person.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I trust, that in your experience, you believe that to be the case. It does not make it certifiable fact for everyone else.
 

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Latinoman said:
Of course...sex adds to that chemical reaction.
Sex is getting a little beyond what we were talking about here, which was initial meeting chemistry. Having sex with a woman, any woman, is going to release more chemicals into her which will ramp up her level of attraction no matter where things started out. Unless of course, she was just using you...not that there is anything wrong with that :D
 

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thirdtimescharm said:
Sex is getting a little beyond what we were talking about here, which was initial meeting chemistry. Having sex with a woman, any woman, is going to release more chemicals into her which will ramp up her level of attraction no matter where things started out. Unless of course, she was just using you...not that there is anything wrong with that :D
That's not what I mean. Sex (if both of you are compatible) can get her attached to you. And if she has a strong chemical reaction for you...you will get plenty of that. When things go wrong (assuming you are in a LTR with her)...sex becomes the thing that will keep the relationship going...giving you time to jump-start things.
 

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Latinoman said:
That's not what I mean. Sex (if both of you are compatible) can get her attached to you. And if she has a strong chemical reaction for you...you will get plenty of that. When things go wrong (assuming you are in a LTR with her)...sex becomes the thing that will keep the relationship going...giving you time to jump-start things.
I'm not sure how we got from a discussion of online dating and initial chemistry to talking about how a sexual bond is valuable in overcoming issues in a LTR.
 

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thirdtimescharm said:
I trust, that in your experience, you believe that to be the case. It does not make it certifiable fact for everyone else.
I have that experience more than once and in ALL my LTR. Very few men have that experience.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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thirdtimescharm said:
I'm not sure how we got from a discussion of online dating and initial chemistry to talking about how a sexual bond is valuable in overcoming issues in a LTR.
Because chemical reaction and sex goes hand on hand. And both eventually is the heat that can keep the fire going in a relationship that otherwise would have ended long time ago. In essence...when a relationship runs in fumes...it is thanks to that INITIAL chemical reaction and sex is typically what keep the fumes going. And many times that is what give you time enough to work on other areas and save the relationship.

Very handy if you end up marrying one of those women. Which is always a possibility. That's why I pay close attention to EVERYTHING early in the relationship. I have no desire to marry again...but you never know.
 

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Online works. But it takes an hour to do what you could do IRL in three minutes.

However, you can indeed sort through a lot of crap. I basically skip over 90% of the women who show me by what they write that they are basically stupid. I'm too old to waste my time. If they are not interesting... forget it.
 
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