mrgoodstuff
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He needs to stop talking about it anyways and start living it. With that im taking a 3 months break.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Online dating experts, I need your help
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Good for you man, I need to do the same.
Isn't that what you said you wanted though? Besides, that's not true. You have ZERO experience to be making ass-umptions.
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Why don't you ask her that question instead of assuming?
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@da dynamically that drunk? Lol
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
"can I fukk you soon or do we have to wait until marriage?"
yea I see that going over like a lead balloon
probably messaged like 50 to 60 women total
any medium to darker cutie. Like I said, darker women are exactly my type as they have the face I'm very attracted to and body I'm very attracted to (thicker, more curvy)...
Don't tell him that, he'll literally talk himself out of it. He just needs to take her out for a no-pressure, fun, flirty date and then come back here for his next steps.
I want sex to happen naturally - say 3th or 4th date for example. I'm not interested in a no sex until marriage chick
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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I don't see any harm, in an attempt to establish compatibility, in asking her how religious she is, does she pray n times daily, does she not blah blah, is she waiting till marriage.
It's all in the way you phrase the question.
I won't ask any hard questions anymore. just keep things simple and straightforward and I'll be fine
sazc
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Why don't you take her out a few times and find out if she's waiting for marriage? You're ASSuming yourself out of a woman
GAWD you make everything so difficult on yourself
she told me she's not religious at all, she told me her family is but they don't bother her about it anymore
Hahahaha...you can't even get a 1st date, why don't we worry about that for now?
But remember who you're talking to here...
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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So she will bang, what's the problem?
I'm working on getting her out on a date
but I need more options, I can't win this so called dating game with 1 or 2 girls
even with her not being religious, I'm sure her family has pounded idea in her head of no sex until marriage
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That's why you get her out on a date.
What's to work on? Ask "let's meet for coffee Monday night"
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.